the atomic fedoras are pretty cool indeed (I have my gripes with ostree being slow and complicated, IMO due to being a fully overlay-on-whatever mechanism instead of being built on top of a particular CoW FS and leveraging it to the fullest… BUUUUT they are actually existing practical systems supported by other people, and my future atomic bsd project is a perpetual someday project supported only by me and I'm terrible)

but also: @chimera_linux :) tiny community with good values building a properly non-gnu linux that's already been like, way more reliable for me than any other linux really

Yeah I wasn't sure about the atomic fedoras, but I think toolbox/distrobox is what's going to make me give them a try for at least some time. It captures some of the ways I like to run my computers reasonably well, and combined with Flatpak for apps I think I can run a computer like that.

Chimera is super interesting, but a lot of its design decisions make it very alien for non-free linux software, and I need a break from that for a while :)

I don't love it, but realistically the linux target companies build for is ubuntu, so any system that doesn't look like ubuntu at the most basic layers (gcc, glibc, FHS layout etc.) is swimming upstream to get that stuff working. I've lived with that swimming upstream for several years, and my arms are tired 😂

Atomic Fedora with flatpak/toolbox feels like a better balance for me, because I can drop into near vanilla ubuntu when needed.

Huh, I'm honestly surprised! I expected LLVM+musl to be a too different ABI to make app distribution stuff work right. Either there's less implicit dependency on gcc+glibc in the world than I thought, or y'all have done a lot of work make the worlds meet. Either way, it's very nice to hear :)

Chimera makes other choices that are very reasonable, but that I disagree with. So I think it's still not for me, but I'm glad it exists ❤️

I think it does a good job!

The section about unrelated components (IMO) implies that you are forced to use all or nothing, which is one of the most commonly repeated myths about systemd (see also 1, 6, 12 in http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html). Maybe I'm reading too much between the lines, but I read that and think "oh the conflation of monorepo source organization and monolithic output again".

I do agree about various components being hit and miss though.