it really is something, isn't it? The experience of looking at film like that is nearly impossible to explain with a photograph. Even the grainiest film looks insanely fine-detailed!
Digital photographer looking at frames from negatives: "We have thumbnails too!" The digital thumbnails: a screen full of photos that are 98% the same, thousands of photos and only a few are good.
@garrett shooting slide film is like shooting JPEG, only at 100 ISO (or maybe 400), but you can't see the result immediately while the camera metering is much more primitive than today's.
@garrett Besides, using a slide projector on a white wall helps appreciate the pictures better, and the colours just look vivid and different than in paper. I used to use Fuji Velvia 50, and sometimes Provia 100. I have never developed any film myself, though.
I've seen some photographers on YouTube who only shoot in daylight color balance, regardless of scene. For the same reason too... Film did it, and it worked. It also creates ambience (warmer, cooler).
I think this is the video I watched a while ago about that: youtu.be/eQPPa_8Z13o
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@paperdigits The limited SD card idea was fun, with good results. I did try to experiment to make the photos matter more. (I was just out for an hour or two and near home, so it was very low risk.)
I also shot in B&W before (but in raw, so it doesn't fully count, but the viewfinder was in B&W and I was intentionally looking for texture and shapes). Looking specifically for saturated color is also fun.
I often just go out with one prime lens. That's limiting in a very good way too.
I'll blast off too many photos when snapping portraits of people or animals.
Travel or street photography? I'll take fewer photos. It's probably because I'm usually with someone who is already patient enough with me to take photos in the first place, so I don't want to spend too long. And I usually don't like to stand in the same place too long too.
@paperdigits I did try an experiment with smaller SD cards years ago.
I even went a bit more extreme and formatted a card on my computer to be smaller than its capacity, with a partition specifically sized to fit only 36 photos (with a little wiggle room, so it would almost but not quite fit 37). It was just for a walk-around in the city, not a trip or anything.
Sometimes I do want to work very intuitively, and the last time I did that I think I shot 150 frames in a 12 hour day trip. I got home and I was like holy shit, that's a lot of photos.
Also when I used to shoot film, I always bulk rolled my own 35mm b/w, so I never had less than 5 rolls on my at all times. I'd regularly shoot 2-3 rolls of ~36 shots. Way more than what I regularly shoot now :P
@paperdigits My apartment is in the center of a city, but it's a constant battle against dust.
My Ricoh GRIIIx hasn't had a dust problem yet. It has sensor cleaning, which mitigates it, but some people have had issues. So far, so good.
Like other cameras, dust on a sensor is probably most noticeable at smaller apertures, especially when shooting with a clear sky in the frame. As a result of different styles of shooting (and luck), some people will naturally notice dust more than others.
@garrett @robcee I dunno I think I got my GR iii for $850 new, no complaints about the price I paid... but they're like $1150 now? Hype cycle is viscous.
@robcee @paperdigits They're not really weather sealed. It's the one* big weak point of the GR III / GR IIIx.
(* aside from the price)
I still love mine and bring it with me quite a bit (when I'm not bringing my Fuji X-T5 (and a lens). I just try to not get caught in a rainstorm with the Ricoh.
Dmitri ☕️
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in reply to Hubert Figuière • • •The digital thumbnails: a screen full of photos that are 98% the same, thousands of photos and only a few are good.
Garrett LeSage
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in reply to Hubert Figuière • • •Ah, I've only ever shot negatives, and did development of my own B&W in a darkroom. But that was decades ago.
Never dabbled in slide film, but, yeah I knew that in principle... Just forgot it. Thanks for clearing it up! 👍
Hubert Figuière
in reply to Garrett LeSage • • •@garrett shooting slide film is like shooting JPEG, only at 100 ISO (or maybe 400), but you can't see the result immediately while the camera metering is much more primitive than today's.
The results are worth it.
Germán Poo-Caamaño
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in reply to Hubert Figuière • • •@garrett I forgot to add that the white balance is fixed, mostly Daylight, but Tungsten balanced exist too.
(I still have a roll of 64T that likely expired 20 year ago, and not always frozen)
Garrett LeSage
in reply to Hubert Figuière • • •I've seen some photographers on YouTube who only shoot in daylight color balance, regardless of scene. For the same reason too... Film did it, and it worked. It also creates ambience (warmer, cooler).
I think this is the video I watched a while ago about that:
youtu.be/eQPPa_8Z13o
Definitely interesting.
White Balance: My (slightly odd) Approach
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in reply to Garrett LeSage • • •@garrett pshhhh that's only true if you have trigger finger!
"Film makes me think hard about the single frame" is only said by the undisciplined. 😭
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Unknown parent • • •@paperdigits The limited SD card idea was fun, with good results. I did try to experiment to make the photos matter more. (I was just out for an hour or two and near home, so it was very low risk.)
I also shot in B&W before (but in raw, so it doesn't fully count, but the viewfinder was in B&W and I was intentionally looking for texture and shapes). Looking specifically for saturated color is also fun.
I often just go out with one prime lens. That's limiting in a very good way too.
mica
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in reply to mica • • •@paperdigits Same, but GRIIIx. I love that 40mm equivalent, and the macro mode at the tap of a button is amazing.
(If I need anything wider when that's my camera with me, I step back, stitch multiples in post, or pull out my phone.)
Garrett LeSage
Unknown parent • • •@paperdigits I'm different at different times.
I'll blast off too many photos when snapping portraits of people or animals.
Travel or street photography? I'll take fewer photos. It's probably because I'm usually with someone who is already patient enough with me to take photos in the first place, so I don't want to spend too long. And I usually don't like to stand in the same place too long too.
Garrett LeSage
in reply to Garrett LeSage • • •@paperdigits I did try an experiment with smaller SD cards years ago.
I even went a bit more extreme and formatted a card on my computer to be smaller than its capacity, with a partition specifically sized to fit only 36 photos (with a little wiggle room, so it would almost but not quite fit 37). It was just for a walk-around in the city, not a trip or anything.
mica
in reply to Garrett LeSage • • •@garrett and how did that go??
Sometimes I do want to work very intuitively, and the last time I did that I think I shot 150 frames in a 12 hour day trip. I got home and I was like holy shit, that's a lot of photos.
Also when I used to shoot film, I always bulk rolled my own 35mm b/w, so I never had less than 5 rolls on my at all times. I'd regularly shoot 2-3 rolls of ~36 shots. Way more than what I regularly shoot now :P
Hubert Figuière
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in reply to Hubert Figuière • • •@paperdigits My apartment is in the center of a city, but it's a constant battle against dust.
My Ricoh GRIIIx hasn't had a dust problem yet. It has sensor cleaning, which mitigates it, but some people have had issues. So far, so good.
Like other cameras, dust on a sensor is probably most noticeable at smaller apertures, especially when shooting with a clear sky in the frame. As a result of different styles of shooting (and luck), some people will naturally notice dust more than others.
Hubert Figuière
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in reply to Rob C 🐳 • • •@robcee @paperdigits They're not really weather sealed. It's the one* big weak point of the GR III / GR IIIx.
(* aside from the price)
I still love mine and bring it with me quite a bit (when I'm not bringing my Fuji X-T5 (and a lens). I just try to not get caught in a rainstorm with the Ricoh.
Rob C 🐳
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