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Well, maybe we need to be more clear what we are trying to do: #deltachat apps are a cross-platform private messenger suite, that aims to provide a consistent UX/UI for users with lots of experience using WhatsApp and Signal.

Telegram has good fast UX but is hardly a private messenger (it has a central cleartext database of everyone and everything).

Matrix and XMPP are well-esteemed fellows in federated messaging, but so far didn't grow a WA/Signal-level cross-platform messaging UX.

YMMV

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Mikalai

You are opening a new world: no need to do anything on server to add new app, ... try this on nextcloud. You even install old apps on the server, not on client.
This is a new paradigm. We should unshukle even from analogies, as old ones hide that server controls user's realm. And when technically server controls it, after a while monopolistic orgs sprang up.
You, with these apps, are placing control of user's realm into user's hands. It is a new paradigm.
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@arale_xan This is not about a full technical comparison of security aspects. Our post was more about UX goals here in this thread. That being said, email metadata in #chatmail messaging is pretty minimal, and we are working on reducing it further: delta.chat/en/help#message-met…

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What is Delta Chat? Delta Chat is a reliable, decentralized and secure messaging app, available for mobile and desktop platforms. Delta Chat feels like Whatsapp or Telegram but you can also use and...
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@arale_xan that's fine 🙂 I'm an #XMPP person myself but I've also been following what Delta Chat has been doing. It's cool that both use #WebXDC for "apps" (right?) because that's one less level of fragmentation for the messaging ecosystem

(I saw you mention it in light of Signal's new "polls" feature, although I knew it was happening before as well. I'm just waiting for a few more XMPP clients to pick it up and add support 😅)

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I think the killer features are simple:

1. Actually decentralised. Not tomorrow, not theorical, not a work-in-progress. Decentralised: NOW.

2. WebXDC apps taking advantage of that decentralisation are going to be one of its biggest pulls. PixelSocial can entirely overtake local neighbourhood/family FB groups for example once is a bit more feature-complete.

3. Everything's encrypted without annoying you like Matrix

4. UI feels famiiliar like old pre-FB-purchase Whatsapp. Smaller learning curves or no curves at alll, are awesome.

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ArcaneChat

@maikel it is literally said in the documentation:

"This script will also check that you have all necessary DNS records. If DNS records are missing, it will recommend which you should configure at your DNS provider"

but are you reading?
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ArcaneChat

@maikel and you got the extra recommendation/warning running:

`scripts/cmdeploy dns`

that is also listed in that docs? it is hard to understand if you just post some image in social media without much context, it is better to use support.delta.chat or create a github issue to document in detail all the issues you found while following the docs as I did here:

github.com/chatmail/relay/issu…


README/guide is incomplete, missing DNS configurations/tips

for someone setting up a server for the first time like me, just following the guide/readme was not enough, ex. the guide assumes you already have a VPS with DNS configured to point to your domain,...
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