If you enjoy reading accessibility battles between blind users and absolutely clueless software developers, oh boy do I have a thread for you.
This guy is trying to add accessibility to an open source slicing tool for 3d printers, he's even willing to do a lot of the work himself if he gets assurance that his PRs are going to be accepted, but the developers are just not seeing it.
I think my favorite quote in the thread is the following, from one of the lead devs:
"it may be better to have these features NOT accessible to the screnreader[sic] at all (which means they are effectively removed from the UI), because there is no point in presenting a feature that a person cannot use"
Along with a suggestion to implement a half-assed, blindness-specific GUI with half the features later down the thread.
The whole discussion is here, for those brave enough to read it github.com/prusa3d/prusaslicer…
App is nearly inaccessible for blind users · Issue #7595 · prusa3d/PrusaSlicer
Version 2.4.0 Operating system Windows 10/11 and Mac Bigsur; Linux to be tested Behavior Expected Results Blind users should be able to reach all interface options, all controls should be properly ...GitHub
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James Scholes
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Drew Mochak
in reply to Mikołaj Hołysz • • •Please provide a content warning. It is much too early in the morning* for this nonsense.
*It is noon
Noah Carver 👨🏼🦯🇺🇦
in reply to Mikołaj Hołysz • • •Drew Mochak
in reply to Mikołaj Hołysz • • •Oh man. Goes 8 months before the first acknowledgement from the developer: "We take your requests seriously. We had two totally blind people visiting us around two weeks ago. It was certainly an interesting and inspiring meeting." And ends with :"We keep your needs in mind, however we all have a load of other work to do. Let's see where your needs will fit in."
Ow ow ow. Thanks for triggering me, you big jerk.
Mariia Sydoruk
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in reply to Dragon • • •Patrick Schriner
in reply to Mikołaj Hołysz • • •On a similar note: it's quite astonishing if you get user feedback from someone who is not blind, but cannot see properly. Uses a screen reader, mouse, keyboard, but is baffled when features are hidden from screen readers or keyboards. Rightly so, in my opinion 😕
Mikołaj Hołysz
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in reply to Mikołaj Hołysz • • •Holy shit.
That is a masterclass in how to _not_ handle accessibility request in #OSS.
Prusa needs to do better. Frankly, probably all #3dPrinting tools need to be better, but how this was handled is egregious.
The one positive takeaway was the reference to See3D in the issue thread. Glad I found out about that as it seems like a good organization.
see3d.org/index
See3D - 3D Printing for the Blind
see3d.orgAbdulqadir Ahmad 😎
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in reply to Mikołaj Hołysz • • •An example of this is edbrowse.
I have been thinking; A specialized solution might unlock more capabilities. The argument against the idea is it becomes difficult to maintain. Well, I have no experience here.
I'll think more on this and perhaps right a blogpost about it.
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