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Denmark and other EU governments still pursue #chatcontrol.

They still want to permanently legalize client-side scanning but postponed making it mandatory.

They also want to increase age-verification controls which risk to ruin what little is left of privacy in current digital spaces, taken hostage already by US corps.

Ourselves? We double down on providing the most private, reliable and fun messaging experience, with a growing federating #chatmail relay network across the globe.

What happened today? Behind closed doors, the Law Enforcement Working Party group approved the revised Danish Chat Control compromise with broad support. While mandatory scanning had officially been dropped, Article 4 of the new text reframes and reintroduces it by obliging providers of e-mail, chat, and messenger services to take “all appropriate risk mitigation measures”. This effectively forces providers to scan all messages, including private, end-to-end encrypted content. The same article outlaws anonymous communication by requiring every citizen to verify their age before accessing a service, kneecapping whistleblowers, journalists, political activists, and people seeking help who depend on anonymity. Article 6 further imposes a, digital house arrest and would ban minors from installing software which comes with a significant risk of grooming, such as WhatsApp, Instagram, and online games like Roblox. What happens next? The legislation now moves to the Coreper (Committee of Permanent Representations) for approval. Without major political objections, the Council will formally adopt its position. At this stage, both the Council and Commission unite in imposing mass surveillance on all 450 million citizens of the European Union and we enter a rushed trilogue. Unfortunately, while the mandate of the European Parliament does not suffer from the same flaws, the Parliament is traditionally known for giving in. What now? We raise our voices. Louder.
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"this law will ban minors from installing apps like WhatsApp..."

What?
I am not a fan of WhatsApp, I use signal, but if such a law bans minors from WhatsApp and pushes all end-to-end-crypted messangers out of europe that would mean that no citizen under 18 is allowed to use a messanger service?
Because all alternatives are even more dangerous than WhatsApp and would fall under the same ban.

So SMS is all they have left, or what?

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feld

weren't state threat actors always a part of the model? There's been a lot of careful thought into making sure it keeps working for people under hostile governments, and this has largely been successful.

e.g., Russia sued, DeltaChat fought, refused to put in a backdoor to collect keys, so they said they'd block the messenger. That was around July? They've still been unable to execute that threat.

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feld

agreed about the Snowflake and other traffic obfuscation methods, but they require Tor nodes that run that specific modified version of the software and very few do (and also breaks compatibility with normal Tor IIRC). Plus the ones that exist must not be published on the internet so they don't get blocked directly either.

So now you can theoretically access Tor, but only if someone shares with you a private server to use... preferably by word of mouth to not leave a digital trail of its identity

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feld

the pluggable transports are for the client to be able to enter into the Tor network from the clearnet and not be detected by DPI, right? But you can't just publish the list of these special Tor nodes or else they can just be blocked by IP
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meek is new to me, someone commented this on reddit:

> Meek is actually the slowest option and it does go through the Tor network but it uses a Microsoft Azure server as the entry point in to the Tor network to make it hard to block without also blocking other services that use Microsoft Azure.

makes sense. And well, for situations like Russia I'm sure they are getting close to being pissed off enough at the West to just block all of Azure and deal with the fallout. So that thing only works as long as countries aren't willing to cut themselves off from large chunks of the Western internet I guess

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@venelles You can already use your own mail server. On the first screen click "Create new profile", then "Use other server" and then "Classic email login". There you can enter email address and password of an email account to use it for sending and receiving chat messages. We recommend using a separate inbox (email address) for chatting and not the same that you use for "slow" email, but otherwise using your own mail server is fully supported.
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