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Are you running #Conversations_im on an Realme or OnePlus devices with stock ROM? Are calls still working for you on version 2.14.2 and above?
Not working would likely manifest itself as a dialog that says "Call not sent" or the operating system opening the default calling app instead of the Conversations UI. Incoming calls would likely be rejected as busy immediately. (There may or may not be other symptoms.)
Please let me know either way and tell me your Android version.
#XMPP
In der Praxis spielt das wahrscheinlich kaum eine Rolle (Hauptsache kein FCM/APNS) aber bei Threema steht ja auch Threema Push und nicht WebSocket.
Thanks @daniel!
#xmpp
#Messaging: #Jabber/#XMPP, since before the apps you recommend even existed 🙂
https://mov.im/blog/debacle/76bf90a4-5f59-4962-92db-6cd859f42ec9
What a great morning on #fdroid for #XMPP users:
1. #Conversations
A beta version of 2.15 arrived at F-Droid. It looks great and now uses Material 3 theme. Be aware: To install this version you need to explicitly select it in F-Droid.
2. #monocleschat
A new minor version has been released which brings GIF import, compatible stickers and other improvements.
3. #Snikket
A new version has been released bringing fixes and improvements from Conversations to Snikket users.
🎉 Have a nice weekend 🎉
Can anymany tell me how I'm "supposed" to use end-to-end encryption with XMPP?
As far as I can tell there are three totally different ways to do E2EE:
a)OTR : "[https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0364.html](Not intended to be a current standard), or technical specification, as better (albeit, newer and less well tested) methods of end-to-end encryption exist for XMPP. "
b)OpenPGP: There are at least two different XEPs about it. XEP-0027 is obsolete, while XEP-0373 is "experimental" but hasn't been updated in almost three years.
c)OMEMO: "Experimental" and hasn't been updated in over two years.
Is there a way to do E2EE in XMPP which is neither deprecated nor experimental? What's the "Current stable" way to do it?
#XMPP #E2EE #EndToEndEncryption #OMEMO #OpenPGP #OTR
Current Jabber OpenPGP Usage
This document outlines the current usage of OpenPGP for messaging and presence.Thomas Muldowney
Just a heads-up that #Snikket #Android has been pulled by #Google from the store. We'll work on restoring it once we figure out their (as usual) nonsensical complaints. Apologies to everyone affected. Please look at #FDroid and free yourself.
Today's excuse for delisting yet another #XMPP app?
"Your app is uploading users' Image information without posting a privacy policy link or text within the Play Distributed App."
Funny. What's this then?? 👀
‼️ Comunità XMPP:
📢 Annuncio: Eventi mensili in italiano sulla messaggistica XMPP! 🇮🇹
📆 Quando? Oggi 12 Aprile alle 18:00
🌐 Dove? In diretta su https://video.xmpp-it.net/c/happyhour con chat (XMPP naturalmente) per intervenire
✍️ Iscriviti su Mobilizon - https://mobilizon.it/events/5afc6dee-fa55-4cbc-92fb-8e23c19c61f1
🌟 Unisciti a noi per partecipare alle discussioni, e incontrare altri appassionati di XMPP. 🚀
XMPP Italian happy hour
@nicfab
@mario
@darhma
@xmpp
#XMPP #standards #chat #jabber #federation #interoperability
XMPP Italian happy hour - Marzo 2023 (recupero) - Live
Sei appassionato di tecnologia, comunicazione? Allora non perderti gli eventi mensili in italiano su XMPP! 🌐 📚 Scopri di più su XMPP: XMPP è l'acronimo di "Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol" ed è costituito da un insieme di tecnologie aperte…mobilizon.it
Jen těch uživatelů nás moc není 😃😃
https://codeberg.org/monocles/monocles_chat
monocles_chat
The monocles chat. A more modern and secure chat client for Android based on Conversations with features from blabber.im and Cheogram and a lot of own changes and improvements.Codeberg.org
#CommunitySpotlight are you an #XMPP user?
Make sure to check out #Conversations https://codeberg.org/iNPUTmice/Conversations or #blabberIM https://codeberg.org/kriztan/blabber.im from #Codeberg!
#YunoHost devs are testing #Prosody as #xmpp #jabber replacement for metronome to get better integration with the system and better compliance with jabber standards. Also new default features as A/V calls.
It's on early development, without ETA!!
great news IMO 👌
thank you 🙏 🧙
prosody_ynh/README.md at master · anubister/prosody_ynh
Prosody package for YunoHost. Contribute to anubister/prosody_ynh development by creating an account on GitHub.GitHub
First blog post about the work I've done so far on the #moxxy UI! I'd like to do one every month if possible, like Thunderbird does with K-9 Mail. Please feel free to send me feedback! #xmpp
https://ailyaut.robotfumeur.fr/blog/2024-04-07_moxxy_ui_report.html
Moxxy UI: March 2024 progress report – Ailyaut's blog
Although I haven't communicated much about it, I've been working on a new interface for Moxxy since October 2023. I created this blog mainly to present my work on this open source project.ailyaut.robotfumeur.fr
The #XMPP Newsletter for March 2024 is out!
It's the 50th publication of the XMPP Newsletter! Let's #celebrate and say thanks to all the contributors & readers! Join the community effort!
https://xmpp.org/2024/04/the-xmpp-newsletter-march-2024/
Enjoy reading! 📰 ☕
#jabber #decentralization #federation #chat
I was about to start a poll asking if #Conversations_im should add a fallback STUN server (stun.conversations.im) for the ~40% of #XMPP servers that don’t offer one via XEP-0215 External Service Discovery.
And then the network of our hosting provider went out for ~5 minutes acting as a good reminder of why the app doesn’t rely on centralized infrastructure…
I don’t use the tablet UI in #Conversations_im. To be honest I hardly think about the fact that Conversations even has one.
However if you are using Conversations on a tablet and have suggestions for low hanging fruit / quality of life improvements I’m happy to implement them.
Recently someone suggested using the chat title as the activity title. (Apparently the highlighted chat is not enough of an indication of what chat you are currently in.)
Our iOS app got banned from the Chinese appstore because it is able to influence public opinion or is "Capable of Social Mobilization".
See our blog post for details: https://monal-im.org/post/00010-ios-banned/
iOS app banned from chinese appstore
Some may have predicted it, but now it happened: the chinese government banned Monal from the chinese appstore. Below is the complete email we got from Apple regarding this ban.Thilo Molitor (Monal)
Gerade gesehen:
Die #XMPP App #monocleschat ist über das Osterwochenende im Play Store zum reduzierten Preis von 0,99€ (anstatt 3,99€) erhältlich.
URL: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.monocles.chat
Zur Vollständigkeit: Bei #fdroid und #codeberg ist sie weiterhin kostenfrei erhältlich.
Hintergrund: Die App monocles chat ist ein Fork von #Conversations und setzt einen Schwerpunkt auf intuitiver Bedienung. Sie ähnelt vom Aufbau noch stärker den typischen Messengern.
Featurevergleich, siehe: https://apps.xmpp24.de
monocles chat - Apps on Google Play
monocles chat - The secure and ethical chat clientplay.google.com
The monocles chat update 1.7.9.5 is available on the Playstore with a Easter special offer 🎉 .
There are several new fixes and features like:
* Initial GIFs picker
* Animated Avatars (up to 100kb and 480px)
* Initial status image preview
* Better image quoting
* Little battery usage reduction
* Updated translations
and much more
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.monocles.chat
A good weekend to everyone!
#playstore #encryption #xmpp #chat #messenger #monocles #monocleschat
monocles chat - Apps on Google Play
monocles chat - The secure and ethical chat clientplay.google.com
Hey, I'm currently doing a little research on the cost of modern social media and messaging, given that cost is an everlasting discussion when trying to move people to more free alternatives.
I am still looking for data for messaging, such as #XMPP and #Matrix. So if you have or know someone who operates a somewhat sizable instance for either XMPP or Matrix and would potentially share some details about operational cost with me I would love to hear about it! :)
Thank you so much! 💙
Wow!
@snikket_im just started their new federated instant messaging hosting service (based on #XMPP) for everyone.
This can really be a gamechanger for instant messaging.
You can bring your own domain name if you want to.
This means: for about 5.50€ (6$) a month (according to the website) you get ten instant messaging accounts for you and your family/friends using your personal domain name (not included).
And you are able to talk to every other XMPP user out there.
The #XMPP Newsletter for February 2024 is out!
Read about the latest XMPP universe updates and the latest updates on our #standards!
https://xmpp.org/2024/03/the-xmpp-newsletter-february-2024/
Enjoy reading! 📰 ☕
#jabber #xep #federation #decentralization #chat
I actually already do something like this based on the #app SMS to URL forwarder (https://f-droid.org/packages/tech.bogomolov.incomingsmsgateway/). The URL corresponds to a very simple endpoint (a CGI written in Bash!) that receives the SMS details and resends it to a #XMPP MUC.
My use case is that I have a mobile phone with an overseas SIM card that I keep at home while I want to know when it receives a SMS.
So having this functionality as part of #Conversations_im would be great.
SMS to URL Forwarder | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository
simple incoming SMS to URL forwarderf-droid.org
I just read a review of Beeper¹ and I’m now thinking about SMS integration into #Conversations_im in the form of forwarding (mirroring) your SMS to your other #XMPP clients. (For example your desktop client or a tablet that runs Conversations but doesn’t have a SIM card.)
Obviously this would need buy in from at least one desktop client to display forwarded messages (@gajim, @dino).
Do you think this is something you would use?
¹: https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/20/24106219/beeper-beta-android-app-chat-messaging
Beeper couldn’t bring iMessage to Android — but it can still make a great chat app
After taking on Apple, Beeper has returned to its original goal of building a chat app for Android that encompasses messages from social platforms and your RCS / SMS service.Emma Roth (The Verge)
- Yes (48%, 59 votes)
- No (I don’t use SMS) (41%, 51 votes)
- No (other reasons. see reply) (9%, 12 votes)
Leute initiieren noch OTR Sessions in XMPP Chats. WTF. Aus welchem Jahr kommt ihr? 2005? XD
Welcher Client kann das denn überhaupt noch?
#xmpp
Google had accepted a version of #Conversations_im with address book integration that explicitly asks the user for consent to process the contact list locally on their device before requesting contacts permission. Our privacy policy included explicit wording w.r.t. local processing of the contact list.
However it’s unthinkable for Google that someone would request contacts permission and then not upload them. A few days later they changed their mind and threatened to remove the app again.
#XMPP
monocles chat 1.7.9.3 just arrived on the Playstore with awesome updates and on a great new level:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.monocles.chat
* Improve restore Backup
* No swiping anymore for commands and webxdc viewpager fixes several webxdc problems
* Initial stickers picker
* Bigger stickers
* Fix flashing emoji picker
* Fix commands view
And many more
Try it out with a WebXDC app of your choice:
https://webxdc.org/apps/
#monocleschat #monocles #chat #messenger #privacy #xmpp #webxdc
monocles chat - Apps on Google Play
monocles chat - The secure and ethical chat clientplay.google.com
What would be the essential features that you would expect in a #team #chat? I mean features that you actually use at work or in association, or you would very much like to see.
I'm asking to check how far we are in common #XMPP clients, but don't hesitate to quote features event if they are already present in some clients.
#XMPP / #Jabber picks of the day:
➡️ @joinjabber - Helping ordinary people get started on XMPP instant messaging & calling through https://joinjabber.org
➡️ @xmpp - Foundation maintaining the XMPP standard for instant messaging/calling
➡️ @xmpp_providers - Maintaining curated list of XMPP servers organised by quality
➡️ @snikket_im - Making XMPP easier to use & set up through consistent software/branding
➡️ @gajim - Free open source XMPP desktop app for Linux, Mac, Windows
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#XSF Announcement
We are a Google Summer of Code 2024 umbrella organization!
Project idea 7 of 7:
@prav App - Standards compliant #SMS #OTP based #authentication
https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Gsoc2024/Prav.app/Standards_compliant_SMS_OTP_based_authentication
#XMPP #jabber #chat #GSoC2024 #GSOC #Google
#interoperability #standards #android #java