@pietervdvn totally, i had a look at what you do on mapcomplete to add conditionnal parts of the edit form, we can add a lot of parts but the hard task is to find people running shops that would be ok to test the form :)
I feel that you will be slowly re-implementing MapComplete and will have to learn all the lessons that I did...
For example: what happens someone wants to update their shop. They search for it, but 'cause it renamed a few years ago, they don't find it and add a new POI?
Another really interesting question is: what are you trying to achieve that MapComplete currently cannot do?
@pietervdvn yup, i also checked other projects that aims to help complete things in osm, like OSM My Biz, Projet Du mois, Maproulette or Complete Tes Commerces complete-tes-commerces.fr
We wanted to have a tool that provides:
a way for us to contact shop owners by email to suggest them to complete their place in OSM and follow up on this
a way for people to complete data about their shop, office, restaurant, which are mostly unfamiliar with osm. it should help fill the fewer things possible
a tool that does not require to make an OSM account for everyone
a dashboard to help places complete their data on OSM with a unique link
a dashboard to have a borad view about completions in a certain zone
a way for shop owners to reach people of OSM France to get help
a way to know what are the difficulties to fill the form by people unfamiliar with OSM (hard, because discouraged people will just leave)
We wantad also to focus on a small set of fields requirements to consider a place to be filled, AFAIK we have no way to filter what is displayed on mapcomplete in a custom link for example. Mapcomplete is a great tool i used at mapping parties and in other moments, but the chaining and followup around reach by email and zone related community dashboard are the points that decided me to launch some other thing.
1. Is that the email address that is also published on osm.org? Or are those emails kept private? 2. MapComplete can do this 3. MapComplete _could_ be configured to have an anonymous account (nowadays even trivially, a link with sign in is even in the settings). However, Anonymous contributions hurt in the long term, see source.mapcomplete.org/MapComp…
This is something you are mostly sidestepping by still requiring an email address
MapComplete - MapComplete is a webapp which allows to use and update OpenStreetMap within thematic maps. This repository contains all of the source code.
4; 5: dashboards are indeed not a goal of MapComplete. There are a few, but 🤷 6: MapComplete has a link to the Osm Community index 7. Interesting topic, for this I do usertests every now and then
It is possible to setup a slimmed down theme for shops (for me). A URL parameter that disables some questions is also something I can code up...
I do think the main issue is about the hurdle to create an account; I guess you'd want a system that people give their email address and can just start mapping...
@pietervdvn thanks for these insights, and yes the adresses we aim to use are the one provided on osm only, we are doing stuff to gather them from legit sources to put it in osm before really show this tool to owners of places.
Pietervdvn
in reply to Tykayn • • •Tykayn
in reply to Pietervdvn • • •totally, i had a look at what you do on mapcomplete to add conditionnal parts of the edit form, we can add a lot of parts but the hard task is to find people running shops that would be ok to test the form :)
Pietervdvn
in reply to Tykayn • • •Well, to tell the truth:
I feel that you will be slowly re-implementing MapComplete and will have to learn all the lessons that I did...
For example: what happens someone wants to update their shop. They search for it, but 'cause it renamed a few years ago, they don't find it and add a new POI?
Another really interesting question is: what are you trying to achieve that MapComplete currently cannot do?
Tykayn
in reply to Pietervdvn • • •@pietervdvn yup, i also checked other projects that aims to help complete things in osm, like OSM My Biz, Projet Du mois, Maproulette or Complete Tes Commerces complete-tes-commerces.fr
We wanted to have a tool that provides:
We wantad also to focus on a small set of fields requirements to consider a place to be filled, AFAIK we have no way to filter what is displayed on mapcomplete in a custom link for example.
Mapcomplete is a great tool i used at mapping parties and in other moments, but the chaining and followup around reach by email and zone related community dashboard are the points that decided me to launch some other thing.
Complète Tes Commerces
www.complete-tes-commerces.frPietervdvn
in reply to Tykayn • • •1. Is that the email address that is also published on osm.org? Or are those emails kept private?
2. MapComplete can do this
3. MapComplete _could_ be configured to have an anonymous account (nowadays even trivially, a link with sign in is even in the settings). However, Anonymous contributions hurt in the long term, see source.mapcomplete.org/MapComp…
This is something you are mostly sidestepping by still requiring an email address
MapComplete/Docs/Reasonings/NoAnonymousContributions.md at develop
ForgejoPietervdvn
in reply to Pietervdvn • • •4; 5: dashboards are indeed not a goal of MapComplete. There are a few, but 🤷
6: MapComplete has a link to the Osm Community index
7. Interesting topic, for this I do usertests every now and then
It is possible to setup a slimmed down theme for shops (for me). A URL parameter that disables some questions is also something I can code up...
Pietervdvn
in reply to Pietervdvn • • •I do think the main issue is about the hurdle to create an account; I guess you'd want a system that people give their email address and can just start mapping...
As long as it isn't abused, that would work
Tykayn
in reply to Pietervdvn • • •@pietervdvn
thanks for these insights,
and yes the adresses we aim to use are the one provided on osm only, we are doing stuff to gather them from legit sources to put it in osm before really show this tool to owners of places.
i will check the ressources you gave too