GrapheneOS Foundation Comments On FBI Helping Criminals In Collaboration With European Countries
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darknetdiaries.com/transcript/…
The FBI ran a sting operation in Europe where they created their own 'secure' phone and messaging platform. Their OS used portions of our code and was heavily marketed as being GrapheneOS or based on GrapheneOS.
Through this operation, the FBI provided criminals in Europe with a communication network they heavily trusted. It gave them much more confidence to coordinate and commit crimes. The vast majority of this crime was ignored for years to avoid exposing ANOM as being a honey pot.
In cooperation with many European governments, the FBI heavily encouraged and facilitated organized crime in Europe. US and European governments facilitated drug trafficking, human trafficking, murders, rape, kidnapping and much more for years while claiming it was GrapheneOS.
It's an outrageous infringement on the GrapheneOS copyright and trademarks. US and European governments did massive harm to the GrapheneOS project through doing this. They placed us in very real danger of violence from organized crime by selling fake GrapheneOS devices to them.
GrapheneOS building technology to protect privacy and security is completely legal. Our work is strongly protected by Canadian, European and American laws. A minuscule portion of our userbase are criminals and the claims being made by the French government about that are lies.
It's very likely a lot of the crime facilitated by ANOM wouldn't have happened without these governments providing criminals with a communications network they believed was completely secure. The way they wrapped it up doesn't absolve them of what they facilitated for years.
France's government and law enforcement wants you to believe GrapheneOS and Signal are somehow responsible for crime. French law enforcement operates with impunity and has extraordinarily levels of corruption and criminal behavior. They're the ones committing and enabling crime.
artyom
in reply to KindnessInfinity • • •It was forked and distributed as ArcaneOS. How is that an infringement?
Metr0pl3X
in reply to artyom • • •Based on the investigation done into it, it had a small subset of GrapheneOS changes applied and they falsely advertised it as GrapheneOS. They likely took some of the changes in order to mislead people into believing they were given a variant of GrapheneOS. It didn't use the GrapheneOS branding though. They used the already well established name and reputation of GrapheneOS to appeal to those it was being sold to.
vice.com/en/article/anom-phone…
We Got the Phone the FBI Secretly Sold to Criminals
Joseph Cox (VICE)artyom
in reply to Metr0pl3X • • •From your article:
Then it's not copyright or trademark infringement
Metr0pl3X
in reply to artyom • • •Doesn't matter how it was branded on the device, what matters for the infringement is how it was sold, we have information that they were being sold AS GrapheneOS using our trademark.
From the International Trademark Association
Our name being used alongside and for the promotion of these products infringes our Trademark outside of fair use.
vas
in reply to Metr0pl3X • • •Do you have any references to that? Pictures at least, or something? I mean, the person above repeatedly asks for details. Originally the claim was that the explanation is in the referenced article, but now it's not. Where is it then?
Metr0pl3X
in reply to vas • • •trilobite
in reply to Metr0pl3X • • •XeroxCool
in reply to KindnessInfinity • • •bloubz
in reply to XeroxCool • • •They talk about it right at the beginning
My personal info dump: Signal was funded by Radio Free Asia, a CIA program
vas
in reply to bloubz • • •bloubz
in reply to vas • • •Massively funded
It's a claim you can verify on Wikipedia for example
vas
in reply to bloubz • • •I've tried just now, and I can't confirm any of your claims. Neither about "massively funded", nor about being funded at all.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Fr… (no mentions of being funded by CIA, no mentions of Signal)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_F… (no mentions of CIA, no mentions of Radio Free Asia)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(… (no mentions of CIA, no mentions of Radio Free Asia)
American non-profit organization
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)bloubz
in reply to vas • • •MalReynolds
in reply to XeroxCool • • •Metr0pl3X
in reply to XeroxCool • • •France back in 2023 targeted Signal (discovered through a leaked memo) and it's service saying it wasn't secure to push ministers and others to French solution Olvid.
The same year French Interior Minister Gérald Darmanin said that he would like to force encrypted messaging services to introduce 'backdoors' to make them available to authorities. Mirroring the recent threat from Johanna Brousse toward GrapheneOS:
"These hitherto inviolate devices, which protect communications and which do not share data on servers, are a new challenge that the cyber prosecutor's office intends to take on"
lemonde.fr/en/pixels/article/2…
In both cases it is likely realistically focused on pushing users to France based alternatives. In this case the EU funded murena /e/OS.
ngi.eu/impact-stories/e-os-pro…
Encryption 'backdoors,' an unenforceable yet recurring political objective
Florian Reynaud (Le Monde)MalReynolds
in reply to KindnessInfinity • • •While I use gOS and have a high respect for their technical skills and exemplary ethics and recognize the very real need for it, and the great work they've done upstreaming security for the greater android community, but my god there's a lot of drama associated, both internally and externally. They would be far better served with a calm and professional press presence. I have their mastodon feed in my RSS and at least monthly there's a flood of rant and screed about some press coverage or someone using their (GPL I think) stuff. Generally speaking they have a valid point in there, but the tone is off, a bit of taking the piss (humour) would go a long way.
Sometimes I fear they will implode and we'll lose this oh so necessary project.
sunth1ef
in reply to MalReynolds • • •I appreciate their candor and frankness on masto but yes agree their tend to be over reactions. I'm reading this statement as "we don't condone this use case. We don't collaborate with governments"
But yes refining their PR would help - especially in the not just going after "rivals" which are really just neighbors in this very niche space
nfreak
in reply to MalReynolds • • •FDA approved lychee
in reply to nfreak • • •Anna
in reply to FDA approved lychee • • •HubertManne
in reply to KindnessInfinity • • •KindnessInfinity
in reply to HubertManne • • •