GrapheneOS Foundation Responds To Jolla


Jolla has spent years disparaging projects based on the Android Open Source Project (AOSP) for marketing. SailfishOS has a largely closed source user interface and application layer with no equivalent to the open source AOSP. It's far less private and secure than AOSP or iOS too.

Jolla recently launched a new product so their supporters are understandably trying to promote it. As part of that, they've been posting about it in replies to posts about GrapheneOS. We've replied to some of it with our perspective within threads originally about GrapheneOS.

Since we dared to post accurate information in threads about GrapheneOS where they mentioned us in replies to promote it, their forum is being used as a place to attack GrapheneOS including libelous attacks towards our team referencing harassment content:

forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfis…

Several of their supporters are taking the usual approach of calling us crazy and delusional while referencing harassment content at the same time as calling the factual info we posted aggressive. They're brigading discussions about GrapheneOS with attacks so we made this thread.

Brigading threads about an open source project and attacking the team with libelous claims is toxic. Defending ourselves from it with factual statements is not toxic. Repeating dishonest attacks on our team based on similar attacks over and over doesn't make it any less untrue.

in reply to KindnessInfinity

At this point, it feels like Graphene is making this out of whole cloth in order to gin up donations.

I see no evidence of specific attacks presented here, and I'm not going out to "X" and every other shit platform looking for contrarians besides. There's always noise being made on the internet in contrast to anything. I challenge anyone to point to the specific consternation any other open source product is making intentionally at a high level to try to take down graphene.

This project seems to be ran by an individual with a martyr complex and simply needs better management. I do run GOS myself, but can't wait to move to a full *nix device, particularly after this repeated whinging. Why would anyone trust someone so capricious?

Edit: wanted to add that the thread linked is largely the Sailfish community complaining about the graphene community, specifically Micay. I see no evidence of brigading or the like, plenty of unbacked assertions, however.

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