b-rain

2 months ago

b-rain
2 months ago

"each individual kid is now hooked into a Nonsense Machine" #school #AI #KI #meme #misinformation #desinformation

@stilloranged
weird interaction with a student this week. they kept coming up with weird "facts" ("greek is actually a combination of four other languages") that left me baffled. i said let's look this stuff up together, and they said ok, i'll open a search bar, and they opened... ch*tgpt

@stilloranged
and i was like "this is not a search bar" and they were like "yes it is, you can search for anything in here"
the thing that made me feel crazy is like. every kid that's using this as a browser is getting new BESPOKE false "facts." this isn't "a widespread misconception about X that stems from how it's taught in schools." each individual kid is now hooked into a Nonsense Machine. With the "widespread misconception about X" you can start at a baseline. like, ok, in tenth grade we all talk about X thing from history, and that leaves us with some misguided concepts about X, but we can correct that as students get broader understandings of the world. But with this, each child is getting UNIQUE wrong facts they are SURE are correct...
because they did what we told them to do! they "looked it up"! they got it from somewhere! it's not a kid making up a belief on hearsay and assumption... it's something they think they LEARNED

@stilloranged:
this kid was extremely combative with me, and i understood why. i was sitting in front of him and telling him that the internet, a computer, technology, all these supposedly authoritative things... were wrong. and that i, one person, was right. he basically *couldn't* believe me. he decided that i was simply a teacher who'd made a mistake. he could check it, after all! he could look it up! he could find the REAL facts. i obviously hadn't done that, i was just an adult who'd decided i was smarter than him. hence the defensiveness. like i said: i understood. it was so fucking rough. i did my best, but i am one person trying to work against a campaign of misinformation so vast that it fucking terrifies me. this kid is being set up for a life lived entirely inside the hall of mirrors

#AI #Meme #school #misinformation #ki #desinformation

in reply to b-rain

feld

in reply to b-rain 2 months ago

when did school stop teaching kids how to cite primary sources and write a bibliography ??

in reply to feld

Mad A. Argon :qurio:

in reply to feld 2 months ago

@feld I remember in my schools they push citing sources strongly on us. Now I wonder if this caused my current resistance to using LLMs because I simply can't tolerate unverified answers.

@feld

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feld

in reply to Mad A. Argon :qurio: 2 months ago

some of them do cite their sources in their responses which is nice

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b-rain

b-rain 2 months ago • •

feld

Mad A. Argon :qurio:

feld

b-rain
2 months ago