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Telegram leaks your IP address to anyone in your contacts during a call. And a researcher has created a tool to easily exploit this.

#Telegram says this is expected behavior, so there's nothing to fix or change.

That's why our top WhatsApp alternatives are #Signal and #Threema: tuta.com/blog/best-whatsapp-al…

More on this story: techcrunch.com/2023/10/19/tele…

in reply to Tuta

Signal and Threema suck for the casual user who power users want to chat with. Neither of them pass the "spouse" test, unless your spouse is also an ultra nerd.
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Telegram передает ваш IP-адрес кому-либо из ваших контактов во время разговора. И исследователь создал инструмент, позволяющий легко воспользоваться этим.

...перебор!

in reply to Tuta

Why don't you guys recommend Wire? It's the only one I've seen that doesn't require a phone number to sign up.
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Signal CEO recently explained what Signal does to protect its users from this, and how much it costs them: signal.org/blog/signal-is-expe…

Use Signal, and if you do, buy a subscription. Don't leave it dependent on the good will of one billionaire.

in reply to Tuta

This is kind of clickbait. A less manipulative headline would qualify that it leaks the IP to _the recipient_ of the call and that this is due to the VoIP protocol being _peer to peer_.

I won't argue that Signal is a more secure app, but Peer to Peer calling is not a security vulnerability. Many security focused people would consider peer to peer VoIP desirable. Especially since the alternative is the calls going through Telegram's servers

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@simplex is the best alternative !
simplex.chat/
No phone number to register, no server ...
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I don't even like telegram, but this article is just fearmongering for normies.

Anyone who actually cares about IP security is going through a VPN anyway. If you are giving your IP willy nilly to every web page and tracking link, a 'hacker' is the least of your worries. Google, governments, and corporations have your IP fully collated with all your web traffic and the hackers just get it from them.

The argument that a centralized switchboard is more secure than p2p is a joke.

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If someone doesn't like peer to peer calls, they can change it to go through the server in Telegram settings.
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Too bad that nothing is said about Session, Jami or Briar that are quite popular now, easy to use and pretty solid, even though they can be a bit buggy at times.

Encouraging people to use Signal is not acceptable in terms of privacy, precisely because of the cons that your article lists and what happened with Twilio. I don't get it.