#Thunderbird Product Design manager @alecaddd answers a burning question with some important history, a look into the future, and some real talk.

blog.thunderbird.net/2023/02/t…

Some of these talking points might be divisive. They might touch a nerve. But we believe in being transparent and open about both our past and our future.

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tl;dr:
Simply adding stuff on top of a crumbling architecture isn't sustainable, and we can’t keep ignoring it.

Throughout the next 3 years, we're aiming at these primary objectives:

1: Make the code base leaner and more reliable, rewrite ancient code, remove technical debt.

2: Rebuild the interface from scratch to create a consistent design system, as well as developing and maintaining an adaptable and extremely customizable user interface.

3: Switch to a monthly release schedule.

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yeah this is a sore topic...

Email is a stone age technology. It's been feature complete for 15+ years.
What new things are you expecting to add?

As a user, I don't want a new UI.
I do want you to fix bugs. And I understand that tech debt makes that hard.

Just remember that Thunderbird is a productivity tool. Do not make the same dumb UX mistakes most phone app devs make these days. There is no need to "entertain" me.

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I'm very worried by this. I've used Thunderbird for many years because it works well enough, on Windows and then Linux 👏 .

I don't use it for anything but email, filtered to folders, a massive decades old database of past conversations and contacts. That's it.

I don't want it 'enhanced' or rewritten because it doesn't need that. I could suggest improvements but if tech debt prevents that, fine.

Same with K9 email used for decades, now being messed with to make it look different 🤦‍♂️

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"A UI that looks and feels modern is getting initially implemented with version 115 in July, aiming at offering a simple and clean interface for “new” users, as well as the implementation of more customizable options with a flexible and adaptable interface to allow veteran users to maintain that familiarity they love."
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@happyborg I'll believe it when I see it, because "familiarity they love" is a superficial promise that you'll be able to recreate something that looks similar/familiar, not that it provides the same functionality or exact look-and-feel. And yes, I'm aware this may seem like I'm a nay-saying grumpy old man, but this happens again and again when applications rebuild their UI from the ground up, or "modernize" it.
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Did I sound like I didn't understand? 🤷‍♂️ I understand, and I don't want it because I'm fine with it as it is. As noted I can think of minor improvements but I'm ok without if they're hard.

Rewriting *will* introduce bugs & likely UI incompatibilities.

Changing the UI is not improvement for me. I know and like the existing UI. Changing this causes problems for anyone used to the existing interface which for such a mature product is a lot of your users, I guess >95%. Not good IMO.