Yesterday I requested a person to pay for support as they desperately asked me for immediate help with their #libcurl problem (for a huge international company doing an expensive commercial device), seemingly in a hurry.
To which the user said no thanks, closed the issue and vanished.
The open source life.
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Michael
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in reply to daniel:// stenberg:// • • •But fortunately not 💪 thanks to you
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in reply to daniel:// stenberg:// • • •If it's not important enough to pay support for, it apparently wasn't important in the first place.
Yup. FOSS.
Many still assume (or even feel entitled to) support as if free software also means free support to go along with it.
Sad state of affairs sometimes.
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in reply to daniel:// stenberg:// • • •They should've supported already. That said, onboarding a new vendor in a modern lawyer-rules enterprise can be gruelling. Easily months worth of paperwork and a substantial burden and cost on said vendor.
(Only way might've been dive into personal funds, which could have been fair depending on how deeply his carreer was vested in the project.)
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in reply to daniel:// stenberg:// • • •Lots of people making excuses for the companies saying "it takes a long time" or "it is complicated" and "lawyers yada yada".
This is not my first rodeo. This is my full-time gig since many years back. I know for a fact that countless (I would even say most) companies can arrange payments pretty quick when it is in their interest.
Apart for the rare unicorn bureaucratic nightmares, the rest is just lame excuses. They're just leaches.
Troed Sångberg
in reply to daniel:// stenberg:// • • •That requires a developer to have the guts to stand up and say "I can't solve this problem, but we need to have it fixed. It will cost money, let's get approval."
... and then the project lead
... and then the programme manager
Many large organizations, run on a culture of fear and authority, are not set up at all to handle such a case. That developer/... will rather fail up until the deadline.
I've worked for them all ...
gregR ☯
in reply to daniel:// stenberg:// • • •– Oliver Stone. Platoon 1986
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Platoon - Excuses are like assholes
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in reply to daniel:// stenberg:// • • •This person/company was not serious.
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in reply to daniel:// stenberg:// • • •Some can, some can't. It varies.
I've worked in companies where arranging small payments to people not on the preferred supplier list was essentially impossible.
I've worked for other companies where I paid for such things on my company credit card. Yeah, there was some paperwork, but it was *after* I'd got the whatever-it-was and *after* the supplier had got paid.
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… and the fact that it's most of them, anyways.
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in reply to daniel:// stenberg:// • • •You DO deserve it for >their< emergencies!
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in reply to daniel:// stenberg:// • • •At least they didn't insult you for daring to ask for money. /sarcasm
(I'm the Community Leader of #X2Go, an open source project, and the amount of verbal abuse, and geneally bad attitude when pointing out that we're free as in speech, not automatically free as in beer, has increased a lot over the last few years. I know and feel your pain.)
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in reply to daniel:// stenberg:// • • •> I want you to do work
Pay me
> No
Jens Link
in reply to daniel:// stenberg:// • • •Even people paying for support of Open Source software can be strange:
A customer had a problem with a well known software and asked me to fix it:
"This is a known bug in this version. Just install a newer one."
"We can't do that, we have paid support for our Linux distribution. We can only use distribution packages!"
"Then ask the support?"
"We never used the support!"
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in reply to daniel:// stenberg:// • • •In my company the number of Open Source software is increasing. My first question is always "who orders support for this?". Companies pay huge sums in license fees to Microsoft, Oracle etc. but refuse to pay at least a fraction of it for Open Source software support. I can't understand that.
A software worth using is a software worth supporting.
Jason Schwarz
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in reply to daniel:// stenberg:// • • •Once during a job interview, the manager to which I was talking said "We love open-source,..." (/me was interested) "...we use lots of open-source software and solutions" (/me was *really* interested) "...because it's free".
He carried on adding some complaints about some open-source project exploring the possibility of (gasp!) becoming paid.
Needless to say I brought my skills elsewhere.
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