in reply to NV Access

@NVAccess were you able to download the huge log I sent? what I did was grab the log right after it was happening. it was a rather huge file, so someone threw your name when I said I thought the log file might be too large for email asked me if I could give you a downloadable link, so I did that. if you read it backwards you would be reading where it was happening, so you don't have to try to sift threw a 10 meg file. I don't know how to read those logs very well at all, so I didn't want to try to cup most of the log out.
in reply to JamminJerry

Sometimes if one thing is playing up, it can cause issues with other things - and sometimes you'll get something which triggers an error in the log, which then tries a different way of doing whatever it was trying to do which works, and you never notice an issue. - A lot of people find that second one when they try NVDA alpha or beta releases - they beep when an error is written to the log, and sometimes you'll hear that quite a bit with no noticeable issue or problem.