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Out of interest, how well does WhatsApp perform on Windows with Jaws and NVDA? On my Mac, VoiceOver focus keeps jumping all over the place, and you can’t read back what you’re typing. #Accessibility
in reply to David Nason

the native app on windows is perfectly usable, with a few quibbles.
in reply to David Nason

It's pretty decent on the PC. Window spots are the key to using it on the Mac. Here's a wee demo we did a while back if it helps. doubletaponair.com/whatsapp-de…
in reply to Double Tap

@doubletap Cheers, will give it a listen. The most annoying thing, aside from not being able to check what I’ve typed, is getting to the most recent message in a thread, and not staying there when I do!
in reply to Sean Randall

@cachondo @doubletap It doesn’t seem to work - I have to press it multiple times as it’s just jumping me in chunks rather than to the very end 😕
in reply to Double Tap

@doubletap I do have a bit of a delay if I go to the top of a very long chat on windows, but end always puts me to the most recent message
in reply to Double Tap

@doubletap @cachondo Sounds like it’s behaving better for you than for me. Maybe I need to upgrade this Intel Mac to an Apple Silicon one.
in reply to Kevin R Jones

@kevinrj @doubletap @cachondo Yeah, I think I’ll hold off until the M4 MacBook Air is out though. Almost tempted to switch to Windows, but I have a Windows laptop at work so can afford to stick with Mac myself.
in reply to David Nason

@doubletap @cachondo Wow, I haven’t used windows since 2010. Just haven’t seen a need for it yet.
in reply to Sean Randall

@cachondo @kevinrj @doubletap I like having a foot in both worlds. Without opening a can of worms, there’s a lot I like about Mac and a lot that drives me demented!
in reply to Kevin R Jones

@kevinrj @doubletap I'm sure people can be productive on mac,, you especially Kevin wouldn't settle for a system that slowed you down! But I have never had a pressing need to switch, Windows has always been there.
in reply to Sean Randall

@cachondo @doubletap A friend, now a retired professor of programming, and another macOS user encouraged me to try the Mac, also it has unix built in. At the time, a blind person couldn’t reinstall windows from scratch. I never felt loyalty to windows. NVDA wasn’t very good yet at the time, neither was narrator, 2009. I’d just bought an iPhone 3GS, and Talkback didn’t exist yet. A lot of confluences at the time.
in reply to Kevin R Jones

@kevinrj @doubletap I think I'm more inertial than loyal.
I don't have any negative experiences to bring to the Windows table, so never saw a need to look for something else. I was a confident JAWS scripter up until I moved to NVDA full time and I guess I've just become quite apathetic about learning a new system. Perhaps that's bad and I need more curiosity