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Google confirms they will disable uBlock Origin in Chrome in 2024: Finally everyone understands it's time to quit Google. 😎

Here are our favorite browsers alternatives:
➡️ https://tuta.com/blog/best-private-browsers

Which one did you pick?

🦊 Firefox
🦆 DuckDuckGo
🕵️ Tor Browser
Mullvad
Pale Moon
Puffin
GNU IceCat
WaterFox
Brave
Hyphanet

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in reply to Tuta

I would never use Chrome. Anyway, I can't check my Tuta mail in qutebrowser...
in reply to dlmayhem

@dlmayhem
Same with my Mull (Android Firefox privacy browser)
Tuta Mail

Seems like your browser is not supported or outdated. Please see FAQ entry for more information

in reply to Tuta

@dlmayhem

OK, i checked. I have Mull version 120.0.0, downloaded from f-Droid, which is stated as the last version.

in reply to Fox Trenton 🎱

@dlmayhem
I restarted it as a precaution as well.

Mozilla/5.0 (Android 10; Mobile; rv:120.0) Gecko/120.0 Firefox/120.0 Error: Unsupported execute@https://app.tuta.com/app.js:1:76965 i@https://app.tuta.com/polyfill.js:1:4214 P@https://app.tuta.com/polyfill.js:1:4183 x.import/</t.C<@https://app.tuta.com/polyfill.js

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in reply to Fox Trenton 🎱

@sintrenton @dlmayhem
It seems that Tuta has for unexplained reasons recently dropped support for Javascript, so if you have sensibly disabled WebAssembly for security reasons, Tuta will unhelpfully just tell you to upgrade to a more modern browser, even if your browser is already latest version.

Could this possibly be the reason for Tuta failing in your browser?

in reply to katlin

@katlin @sintrenton @dlmayhem That's actually possible. We explain this change here - and also a potential workaround: https://tuta.com/blog/best-encryption-with-kdf
in reply to Tuta

@katlin @dlmayhem

Thank you for the feedback. I'm leaning towards going for installing the app in the end, it seems. But great hearing your responses.

in reply to Tuta

@katlin @dlmayhem

Said the creator of it 😋
Yep, I will for sure. ✌️😎👍

Have a great weekend!

in reply to Tuta

@sintrenton @dlmayhem Thanks @Tutanota for the link to the blog post which I did not see before, this explains motivation for using WebAssembly over Javascript and good overview of workarounds, although unfortunately users who are using web clients without WebAssembly only see the error message "Seems like your browser is not supported or outdated" which is not an accurate diagnostic and misses the explanation given by the blog post.
in reply to Tuta

In the blog post it says that compiling the C code to Javascript "would make the app too slow to be practical", I am curious what are the numbers for this? Like how much longer would it take a client to sign in using compiled Javascript instead of WebAssembly? And would it be a matter of seconds, minutes or hours to sign in?
in reply to Tuta

Well, I haven't used Chrome for years, a problem I don't have to worry about as much!😅
in reply to Tuta

I switched from Internet Explorer 6 to Mozilla Firefox 2.0.
After Chrome came out, I tried it a little bit, but every time I went straight back to Firefox.
I'm still using Firefox today.
in reply to Tuta

Don't have to pick. I'm using Firefoix for hmm 20years? And was using Mozilla Suite before.
in reply to Tuta

since you ask Firefox, with Thunderbird as my mail programme and Duckduckgo as my search engine.
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LibreWolf ??? But in all Honesty, more people should be running the tor browser.
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- I would like you to add some kind of encrypted DNS to the list. I'm trying out Quad9 with DNS over HTTPS on my home router right now.

I'm using Mozilla Firefox most of the time on my mobile units.

in reply to Tuta

you could make a poll. I personally use @Waterfox with uBlock Origin installed.
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#google confirms i will continue to avoid #Chrome for the foreseeable future.
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Vivaldi user here. I know, it uses Chromium, but I just love the customization of Vivaldi. The lack of native customization in Firefox and some stability issues with the android app made be go back to Vivaldi after using Firefox for a few months.
in reply to Tuta

I think Google just reached to a point where they are certain that they don't have to please their chrome users anymore. They have plethora of products that have a monopoly or nearby monopoly. And their services are tied up with one another. They know chrome can survive even if they implement all their shitty decisions. There are too many huge forks like Brave and Vivaldi that will die once chrome stops development. Which is why chrome won't die or lose to firefox. We should also take a note that majority of the people who use chrome won't even mind about it. That's why they are so confident.
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in reply to Tuta

been using Firefox since 2021, was using a potato at the time.
It's based.
in reply to Tuta

yeah, Chrome just asked for access to Finder. Nope! Guess I'll be on Firefox soon.
in reply to Tuta

Won't users of chromium forks to drop the MV2 extension as well? I can't imagine that the Chrome Web Store would continue to support uBlock Origin in the MV2 format.
in reply to Tuta

Remove Brave from the list as it's build upon Chromium?
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Tuta
@Linux_Is_Best Thanks, will look into this!
in reply to Tuta

Never switched. Always used firefox even when everyone else switched to chrome for performance.
in reply to Tuta

Librewolf and Mull (or Fennec). Your list is lacking some options. 😉
in reply to Tuta

I use firefox in pc, but i prefer duckduckgo in my smartphone xD
in reply to Tuta

Firefox + uBlock Origin + PiHole + Qwant + Invidious + occasionally Mullvad VPN.
in reply to Tuta

Firefox both before and after Google Chrome was new. You can't kill a masterpiece.
in reply to Tuta

The devs behind uBlock Origin have released a Lite version that is Manifest V3-compliant, but it is not a perfect substitute.
in reply to Tuta

FireFox is the only option here that actually has direct security support, and everything else is a fork of FireFox/Chromium.
in reply to Tuta

Linux: Firefox and Tor browser.
Android: Firefox, Firefox Focus and Tor.

I don't have secrets (apart from the obvious ID that phishers want). I just don't like creeps thinking they can sell me.

in reply to Tuta

hope this doesn't affect other chromium based browsers
in reply to Tuta

I'm sorry, but this was a poor and bad click-bait.

First of all, this is from a reddit post over a month ago:
https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/17wu2gz/google_confirms_they_will_disable_ublock_origin/

That Reddit post does not point at anything official from Google supporting that click-bait post. The closest you get is this post:
https://developer.chrome.com/blog/resuming-the-transition-to-mv3/

None of these posts which you highlight in that image confirms that Google will deliberately target uBlock Origin. It is a collateral damage, though, with the MV3 move; yes. But it is not targeting uBlock Origin explicitly - as that headline indicates.

I completely agree that using Google based services and products is highly risky in regards to privacy, including Google Chrome (and most likely Chromium). But at least try to stay true to the real facts and not hype a click-bait.

This kind of posting you do here more makes me sceptical to Tuta. This is poor propaganda. If you want to do this kind of stunts, at least know you provide the real hard facts.

in reply to Tuta

DDG. I especially like the "clear all" button with inferno animation)
in reply to Tuta

let them block uBo if they really desire to. Its they who will face consequences, so.... if they really want, than why not?
in reply to Tuta

And misleading as hell. Headline talks about uBlock Origin, text then talks solely about MV2 extensions.

No word that MV3 also supports almost all features in a fork called uBlock Origin Lite. They even have a handy list of the supported features.

No word if Firefox pledged to keep access to that one (open to abuse) API forever. So will they remain working or will the same problem show up in a short while again?

in reply to Tuta

I want to add @Vivaldi to the list. Best Browser ever, IMO 😀. Add ublock and test with https://d3ward.github.io/toolz/adblock.html
in reply to Tuta

Tor Browser isn't very secure though IIRC because it's often late to the patch party. So rather use it for exactly the things where you need TOR.

I wouldn't recommend Brave though, the boss is a prick who financially supports homophobic laws. And it's deep in the crypto bro scene. Also it's based on Blink and if they don't keep manually supporting Manifest v2 they will eventually remove it as well ^^'

I highly recommend just using Firefox and going through the settings to e.g., force-enable DoH and certificate transparency, clear cookies on quit (+allow list), disallow third party cookies, etc.

in reply to Tuta

@isotopp do not forget:
@Vivaldi and Arc as incredible good alternatives!
in reply to Tuta

switched back to #Firefox Beta 1.5 years ago and never looked back ... since all on this list seem to be based on Firefox anyway, why not stick with the Original?

Or if you want / need something Chromium based (e.g. for the Dev Environment), Vivaldi is a very good / mostly Google Free alternative, too

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in reply to Tuta

🤷 I've been mainly on Firefox now for years.

Not perfect, but then Chrome has been never perfect either.

in reply to Tuta

Been using Firefox for almost as long as I can remember. Sometimes, if need be, Safari. Why would anyone use Chrome?
(Yes I know it used to be required by some applications.)
in reply to Tuta

@Vivaldi do you have plans about this? Happy Vivaldi user here... @Tutanota
in reply to Tuta

Oh and curious why 9 of the 10 browsers which you recommend here are not listed by Tuta as supported browsers? https://tuta.com/support/#browser-support
in reply to Tuta

Will they? Or rather they keep using Chrome because they never experienced ad-free web, so they don't miss it, so they have no motivation to fight it. I find people are used to ads, accepting them as part of the life.
in reply to Tuta

Firefox… since Firefox-0.9 or something like that :>