I completely underestimated how widespread the issue of servers not supporting TLS 1.3 is. Tests in the beta channel gave no indication.
I regret not working harder to at least make the error message better.
The error message in master has been improved, but I can't push that fix as long as I have ongoing disputes with Google (putting it out by temporarily admitting to collecting email addresses resets my spot in the queue to maybe talk to an actual person).
Wolf480pl
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •search.jabber.network
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •Ouch.
Next time, don't hesitate to ask us for stats. We have links to *many* servers and could do a quick survey of TLS 1.2 vs. TLS 1.3…
Daniel Gultsch
in reply to search.jabber.network • • •Guus der Kinderen
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •XMPP Network Graph
xmppnetwork.goodbytes.imsearch.jabber.network
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •Astonishing:
$ prosodyctl shell s2s show | grep -Po 'TLS\S+' | sort | uniq -c
53 TLSv1.2
2082 TLSv1.3
(Note that this is s2s and both directions, so roughly halve the numbers I suppose.)
Daniel Gultsch
in reply to search.jabber.network • • •@sjn This roughly aligns with the numbers I had when I made the decision to enable it by default.
Or I guess on the other hand 3% is still a lot of individuals when it comes to the user base of Conversations.
Benjamin
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •Without your notice here earlier I wouldn't have known where to look :)
Debacle
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •What is the minimal system version supporting #TLS 1.3?
I.e. would #Debian 11 (#buster #oldoldstable) suffice? It is under #LTS (long term support) until 2026-08-31 and probably still widespread.
It has e.g. #ejabberd 21.01, #nginx 1.18.0, #prosody 0.11.9…
gdt
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •Thank you for writing and releasing Conversations as Free Software.
Google's behavior is not your fault and you should not feel responsible. F-droid users may get the msg improvement first.
My take was that servers not supporting TLS 1.3 really need updating, and exposing that is progress.