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"diagram." That's all #NVDASR sees. "The image displays a stylized, neon blue ring. It appears as a partial circle with an interruption, or gap, at the bottom right, creating an open loop. The ring is thick and evenly illuminated, giving it a glowing effect against a solid black background. There is no text present in the image. " Where is this, you ask? Oh, it's just a progress bar inside Google Collab after hitting "download" once right-clicking a file in the file manager and the blob is made.
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Tamas G
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I almost hate GPT for making me more aware of random little hidden images (or like in this case an SVG of a progress circle) and making me realize what aspects of the web are still left inaccessible to me inside of an experience I consider "mostly" accessible. Nope. "mostly" accessible is not a WCAG pass in my book towards compliance or even usability anymore. It means you still have gaps to solve (like these) and you can't claim it (Not that Google does for Collab, I guess.)
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Tamas G
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also, compliance is not usability at all. As we know from how horrible the commenting experience is within Google Docs using a keyboard. You either alt+ Control E, then C (a stupidly layered keystroke) where you hear your comment position to open the list of comments, or you do the alt+ control + shift +A command (gosh) to open all of them and tab your way through all replies and comments sequentially. Sadly I pointed this out to some work colleagues on Friday and how G-doc comments overwhelm me
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Tamas G
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So not only do I get fatigued from the work that is to be done at an accessibility job, but I'm double-fatigued by the shitload of inaccessible experiences (or rather, parts of experiences that are neither accessible nor usable) which creates extra context switching, and needing to figure out how to operate it. And then people wonder why those who are blind can't get (or keep) jobs. Yeah. 85% of stuff you use at your job probably don't work for them as well as they do for you, that's why.
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Brian Moore
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so much this!
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Mira 🤞🇧🇬🇭🇺
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That sucks. Here, there are no jobs to begin with. Or there is a law that ensures you get to squeeze every single cent you can from the country, but you can't work under contracts. and you can't work anyway in a lot of places if you're disabled, because we have a dumb law here that makes it very difficult to fire us for example, even when we clearly have no skills or could perform any good in a job, and I am not talking of accessibility, but that also plays a role. So, all in all, I admire you for keeping your jobs and for having some kind of jobs. That's a dream here.
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Brian Moore
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@tardis well, we are fortunate. However, working in an environment with constant barriers all the time takes a toll and gets exhausting. When some of those tools mean you are less productive than your colleagues, this creates additional pressure. There are days I just want to stop. However, can't afford it. kid thinks I should provide a place to live and food and all that.
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Mira 🤞🇧🇬🇭🇺
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Yeah, I don't know which is worse, to be fair, but I guess somehow the bills must be paid and kids to live good...
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Brian Moore
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@tardis still, we are fortunate compared to some places. At least we have the opportunity to work.
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Mira 🤞🇧🇬🇭🇺
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and I call that good, better than here. I can't work because of all the laws mentioned. The only way I can work is by having relations, but I don't, not with anyone who has a business or anything. So, freelancing, or something. And I have decided that instead of sulking about it I will just finish all this studying very nasty university crap, where if you want accessibility, you do it yourself, nobody gives damn about you, photos, figure it out, paper books, figure it out, diagrams, figure it out. I have lots to write about jobs and schools here and I better not. LOL
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Tamas G
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@tardis @bmoore123 yeah, it's not much positive in it, but the resilience you can build up from all the adversity in the college days can come in very, very handy towards employment. In my high school days I never really advocated for myself, and it was that super hard college environment where sometimes you tear apart books your professor wrote to scan by hand that got me thrown into the real world for what was to come in an actual job career. Rude awakening for sure!
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Mira 🤞🇧🇬🇭🇺
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Yeah, that's very true. However, here's a lot to the extreme of no, we won't provide resources for you etc. The whole campus is also inaccessible, for all groups of peoples, especially wheelchair users. I dislike how they are not included, I dislike the infrastructure and I want a battering ramp to get it all down down.
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Bryan Smart
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@stirlock I've been a working blind adult for 24 years. This was the story then, same as now. I'd get a job where the tools would work. One day they wouldn't anymore. I'd spend days, falling behind, trying to write JAWS scripts or beg devs to care. I'd get it together enough to catch up for a while, but it would break again one day, usually during a critical work period where I felt incompetent for having to make accessibility excuses. It's a treadmill.
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Tamas G
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yeah and I feel like the steep incline of that treadmill has not gone down over the years by much if at all, it's just that the material it is made of on which you walk is now different in substance, and in some job positions nowadays can be more varied with smaller surface changes faster depending on the industry. Tech has certainly sped up with the various agile and rolling workstreams that didn't exist early on as much.
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Matthew J
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fuck google man. docs is such an accessibility shit show.
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