Let's make LibreOffice accessible for everyone! Say hello to Michael Weghorn, our new Developer, who'll be focusing on accessibility improvements – like making LibreOffice more usable for people with visual impairments: blog.documentfoundation.org/bl…
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OK, that brightened my whole day. While libreoffice is already kinda accessible, issues with tables especially still persist, where you basically have to see in order to align those correctly, among other things. Another weird one is that one can't use structural navigation or browse mode inside libreoffice, which one can do in windows with office, but also with orca in other web apps. This is especially used for sr users to jump to headings, links, buttons, form elements and such very quickly, so I think this would be very useful to add. Anyway, any accessibility features and roadmaps?
@bgtlover Hi! Michael will initially primarily focus on improving LibreOffice for use with a screen reader, based on issues reported in the Bugzilla issue tracker. List of accessibility-related bug reports: bugs.documentfoundation.org/bu… Supporting browse mode/structural navigation will require work in the screen readers as well. There are already these reports for this: bugs.documentfoundation.org/sh… github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issue… (1/2)
@bgtlover For any other issues you're encountering, please report them to the bug tracker at bugs.documentfoundation.org, and then Michael (and others) can look into them. (2/2)
OK, I'm looking over the list, some of those issues I personally encountered as well, but didn't report them because they would be effectively duplicates. Very interesting the issue with nvda and structural navigation in documents, does orca suffer from the same issues? Do you expose the headings and links and such as normal at-spi accessible objects?
This is great! I use Libreoffice for much of my work, though there are some aspects that make it difficult for visual accessibility reasons.
The first issue: the flip point where text becomes white or black based on the cell color in the spreadsheet is incorrect, as a result, a lot of mid range cell colors end up with text that's not readable (unless the text color is overridden).
Another: the highlight color for certain buttons in the UI when the system is in dark mode makes the text unreadable on the button.
I'm at your disposal if you have any questions about any visual accessibility issues.
@Myndex Thanks, Myndex! Please report any issues you see to the bug tracker at bugs.documentfoundation.org, and then Michael (and others) can look into them 👍
@robini71 That would be awesome. I gave up my Office 365 subscription in December 2020. But, after using less than accessible windows Office alternatives, I bought a Mac.
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Supporting browse mode/structural navigation will require work in the screen readers as well. There are already these reports for this:
bugs.documentfoundation.org/sh…
github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issue… (1/2)
Browse Mode in LibreOffice Writer · Issue #8148 · nvaccess/nvda
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Specific to hyperlinks: bugs.documentfoundation.org/sh…
35107 – A hyperlink in writer document doesn't expose correct role and URL to AT-SPI.
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in reply to LibreOffice • • •This is great! I use Libreoffice for much of my work, though there are some aspects that make it difficult for visual accessibility reasons.
The first issue: the flip point where text becomes white or black based on the cell color in the spreadsheet is incorrect, as a result, a lot of mid range cell colors end up with text that's not readable (unless the text color is overridden).
Another: the highlight color for certain buttons in the UI when the system is in dark mode makes the text unreadable on the button.
I'm at your disposal if you have any questions about any visual accessibility issues.
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156182 – FORMATTING Automatic text color can be unreadable with darker cell colors
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