Did you know that Microsoft just turns Copilot writing assist on for webpages in Microsoft Edge?
So like, if you type in edit boxes, it just... gets sent to Microsoft? Straight up?
And this is enabled by default?
So first, what the actual hell? Second, why is nobody talking about this? How the hell is right now the first time I find out about this?
So like, if you type in edit boxes, it just... gets sent to Microsoft? Straight up?
And this is enabled by default?
So first, what the actual hell? Second, why is nobody talking about this? How the hell is right now the first time I find out about this?
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Next Windows update silently be like "Oh, this is disabled? Let me turn it on again quickly for the user! It's better that way..."
This is why I stopped using Windows and deleted my Facebook account 20 years ago: When shit suddenly started to automagically switching itself back on again. And nowadays they don't even hide it anymore: "Oh, so you disabled us to collect your data on all of your devices. Do you want to re-enable it? - Yes! / Ask me later."
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It's okay. My work computer runs Win11 and goes full copilot because my employee put "By happily and curiously adopting Copilot we archieve an productivity gain of 16%!" in our annual team targets.
I asked what the relevant productivity baseline value us (that we need to increase by 16%) and in what SI unit one measures productivity (is it Watts? Watts per hour?) How do you even measure productivity? I mean we need to know that so that we are able to tell when we archieved that KPI and since it's bonus relevant, this means a few thousand bucks for some of us...
The answer was: "Well, that team target is... more like a... work in progress... thingy..." which is management german legalese for "If you have copilot activated you automatically scored that target by 100%". So... here we are.
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in reply to Talon • • •It has to get more pervasive.
You know they need the growth in LLM interactions for their next quarterly investor call.
The users? What they gonna do? Personal experience shows that even these who easily could switch to Linux, stock with their Windows, while cursing hourly about it.
Ryan Peters
in reply to Talon • • •Fionnáin
in reply to Talon • • •in fairness, a lot of people talked about this when Windows 11 was being rolled out. It caused a lot of people to switch to Linux. But those who know don't want to flog a dead horse when they think other people already know. Obviously, plenty of people still don't.
I think MS's communications team is much stronger at suppressing this than the internet's ability to spread the message, and there is the real problem.
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in reply to Talon • • •Microsoft lays hands on login data: Beware of the new Outlook
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in reply to Gavin • • •Angela Scholder
in reply to Talon • • •That's what I was thinking: "Don't use Edge!"
Unfortunately I'm still dealing with cameras that have ActiveX and use Edge in IE mode for that
Maybe I should just use my old W2000 machine with the read IE for that.
econads
in reply to Talon • • •opt out by not using edge? Are you tied to it through your work or something?
I'm sorry to be one of those people
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in reply to Talon • • •Andre 🌈
in reply to Talon • • •you agree to being ripped off by using ms edge. You shouldn't be too surprised.
I find it very interesting when you use corporate outlook for the web. That is a major thing and should be a no-go for any non-europen company
kevin ⁂ (he/him)
in reply to Talon • • •Andrzej Stamburski
in reply to Talon • • •I'm surprised that you are surprised.
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in reply to Talon • • •don’t worry, microsoft pinky promises in their privacy statement that they don’t persist any of this data. 😅
It’s definitely not compliant with GDPR, at least my understanding of it.
They just rolled out a writing assistance API in edge with a local phi 4 mini model. My guess is they’ll be moving this feature over to that when it goes out of beta.
schrotthaufen
in reply to Talon • • •Florian Schmidt
in reply to Talon • • •Do people understand in general that A) most office workers get told what software to use and B) Microsoft invested loads of money to make sure it's their software that gets prescribed? This battle is fought at the C-Level management, not at your desktop!
Talon
in reply to Florian Schmidt • • •Paul Schoonhoven 🍋🍉
in reply to Talon • • •@schmidt_fu I agree with Florian. It was only that I had some issues with MS in the early days that I had an early warning about the direction MS took. Most people don't want t know (and should not have to know) what is happening in that box we call a computer, laptop or phone.
And ... On the internet everything was free, remember? We* just did not see the price we paid and did not know how much profit is being made with all the data grabbing.
*just about everyone. some nerds excluded.
Talon
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in reply to Talon • • •As it is al over tour PC, phone, online,... it is a question of taking back control app by app, program by program. I used my 'getting annoyed with a thing' to change that.
Low hanging fruits first.
@schmidt_fu
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in reply to Talon • • •Joel Pomales
in reply to Talon • • •in all seriousness, how many companies out there have developed acceptable use policies for this tech?
I mean, depending on your industry you can be sending very sensitive data to Microsoft. Wow!
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