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It's fascinating how even within the #accessibility community, some people feel the need to bet on blatant apologism and chastise people for taking a contrary opinion to dev teams, responding to said opinions almost like they were personal attacks. The answer to user frustration is calling users stupid for not knowing how things work in dev teams and how dare they have unrealistic expectations born from being ignored for decades and finally hoping for a change.
Personally I think there's a place for both extremes, but watching people stuck in their own beliefs get mad at other people stuck in their own beliefs where this is concerned always seems ... interesting.
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Tamas G

I wonder if part of this comes from a bit of a different attitude towards what being accessible means, since some only see it from the compliance angle more whereas others try to inject usability alongside it and realize that compliance itself means jack shit if people can't use the thing. Then once developers get stuck in their views, they're just so, so hard to change, so stubborn developers seal the deal of disagreements
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Florian

@Tamasg I find it particualrly interesting when, say, a designer pivots to UX design/advocacy but then uses the authority of having been a designer to basically take the position of "I was a designer, I know what designers are like and what they can do, you're stupid for expecting a designer to do more than the absolute minimum". To a point any progress is progress to be celebrated, of course it is, but nixing the target audience's frustration at how slow these things go, while convenient, is never a good idea I think
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