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Mint egy másik hozzászóló is írta: nekem is teljesen új már eleve az is, hogy az Apple eladja ezeket az adatokat.
arstechnica.com/tech-policy/20… #apple #privacy
in reply to barcaxavi

Well, knowing the fact that there's a notification that tells you that Apple will collect audio recordings from Siri, I am not surprised. But yikes. I don't have "Hey Siri" on, but I bought way too many devices in all these years, like more than five. ;)
in reply to barcaxavi

én azt sajnálom (kis kár örvendéssel), hogy rengeteg ember bújt mögéjük a "Privacy. That’s iPhone" szlogenjük miatt és remélte hogy az érdekeit képviseli a cég, szemben Google-lel.

ezzel most egyértelművé vált hogy nem több ügyes marketing fogásnál, és egy szavát sem lehet hinni a cégeknek, senki nem nézi a vásárlók igényeit és egy "melyik mainstream telefont vegyem" kérdés esetén a személyes igényeken túl nincs értelme moralizálni. (és ezutóbbinak mondjuk eddig sem volt sok értelme)

in reply to 👾 Attila Gonda

Agree to disagree. People themselves should be careful what they share. Also, I wouldn't enable hey Siri, I only ask it to go search for my phone because 99%of the time I can't find it. Blind and all that stuff. But honestly, there's no 100%privacy anywhere. Sad fact. That's the world.
in reply to Winter blue tardis🇧🇬🇭🇺

@tardis I don't necessary understand your take. on one hand you're pointing fingers at the users they should know better but on the other you're saying there's nothing one can do because everyone will sell their data anyway.

yes, users could educate themselves better how to protect their privacy.

but expecting everyone to question a loud privacy stand from a company when EVERY tech news site announced them as *the privacy hero who protects from evil ads* is a bit of a stretch.

in reply to 👾 Attila Gonda

@tardis also, I think "careful what they share" is a very vague exclamation. in general most people don't *share* top secrets from their lives with Siri, search engines, or even during a small talk with their family.

but the problem is **every** part of your life can used against you when a company doesn't respect your privacy. (just think about the wild example of the charged woman (women?) in the US who searched for abortion clinics when the state outlawed it)

in reply to 👾 Attila Gonda

I am quite evil, and I don't care enough about the states, sadly. Not a destination in my list. On the other hand, better education about privacy isn't going to be a bad thing. Like I said, no privacy is 100%secured, we'd have to cut ourselves off the internet if we want 100%privacy, even then it's not a guarantee.
in reply to Winter blue tardis🇧🇬🇭🇺

@tardis @pcdevil my general takeaway is, even above the privacy topic:

we gave too much power to these companies and most of them are misusing it. Regulations and bans are somewhat hurting them, but It would be better to not give them our money and our data.

in reply to barcaxavi

Then I guess no phones for us. Some of us don't have a lot of choice to be fair. Apple is still the most developed in accessibility.
in reply to Winter blue tardis🇧🇬🇭🇺

Also, Google and Samsung are worse. Nope and nope. Won't be using these guys' phones any time soon. Not to mention Google's absurd geo restrictions.
in reply to barcaxavi

@tardis agree 100%.

to be fair I'm laughing at this payment, $90M is nothing when it comes to selling users data 😞

in reply to 👾 Attila Gonda

That's pretty true, that's no payment, a payment would be an actual fix and actual feedback, and. actual guarantee that won't repeat, but if we're realistic it won't happen. And even if something does happen, people won't be told about it.
in reply to Winter blue tardis🇧🇬🇭🇺

Although, how about they pay every apple user 100 or so dollars? That'll be quite the huge proffit loss. Just send every apple ID 100 dollars. LOL.
in reply to Winter blue tardis🇧🇬🇭🇺

@tardis @pcdevil I totally agree that there are not too much to choose from, and I really believe in everyone's right to choose what they want to (based on their focus and needs).
But there are some cool projects for smartphones that are worth the look (@GrapheneOS , @calyxinstitute , @LineageOS), and also some great alternative software to use in replacement of the apps and services of the big players.
in reply to barcaxavi

Yeah, if they are accessible. But they are not. I was thinking of tying half of my family members' eyes and make them all use phones. Real evil, right? Also, do not break my dreams. 100 dollars are enough to travel and pay you all a visit. haha.