I would recommend you remove brave off this list, even on a technical standpoint brave products are subpar and you have to disreagard the AI and crypto bullshit in it.
From a moral perspective every cent that goes into brave will eventually be funeled into anti human right campains. The ceo is antivax, Pro Qanon, Election denialist, homophobe, ...
And finaly from a privacy stand point brave has an horrible track record of hijacking afiliate links, wanting to insert ads, tracking, ...
Recommending brave is like recommending bing with microsoft edge and getting all your info using Grok.
I would also that Brave AI is well know for paroting Brendan Eich viewpoint, the NY times ran an article on it's election and covid denialism (nytimes.com/2023/03/22/businesโฆ)
So sincerelly stop giving brave any kind of visibility there is absolutly no reason to do so and while alienate people who are explicilty targetted by brave ceo.
its a shame that neo liberal nations like Sweden has made google/apple a must. Moslty because without bankapps that verifies our identity it's to hard to live here
Great list! The fact that people in the comments predictably roll out a slew of their own suggestions and prefered software not featured in it just goes to show how much we are actually spoiled for choice, certainly more than we'd think before starting out on a degoogling journey.
I recommend Ente Auth as an authenticator app. Aegis is good, but it's not available on PC. Ente is available on PC ( Linux included ), and it's Open Source.
I ain't any expert in cryptography or blockchain but weren't there some drama about Session removing Perfect Forward Secrecy, stating that Blockchain is enough (I probably simplified that)? Something changed or is it just okay?
I also had huge problems with reliability of Session synchronization and receiving notifications but let's leave that
Would you consider to include Volla? Their Volla OS is probably the most private/secure OS in the world. And as an OEM they enjoy full control over all security-critical layers, including drivers and firmware. Check out volla.online
Peertube instead of YouTube. The old social YouTube is dead. I do like the fact that you can make lists of your favorite subjects. Maybe Peertube doesn't have that yet. I am sticking to YouTube until there are more people because I love the people and channels there.
it's worth noting that the @ente 2FA app is available as is a standalone 2FA app from @bitwarden if you don't want to use their password manager for 2FA codes
In my opinion Ente and Bitwarden are really good apps for the average person
Proton (via the pass app) is very good but 2FA is mostly paywalled
Aegis is very good but more suited to the more experienced users who can mange their own backups
I echo other people's sentiments about Brave. I actually didn't know about the owner being homophobic, but the cryptocurrency stuff is what kept me away from them. I also didn't know Session is dabbling in cryptocurrency, but apparently they are, along with, as mentioned, removing perfect forward secrecy from their service(Though I don't think it's that big of a deal by itself, but combined with the cryptocurrency it's odd.). As mentioned Searx doesn't seem to exist anymore, but a fork of it, SearXNG, exists. Another chatting platform I personally use is Briar, it's free and open source. Also for the Discord-types Revolt and the Matrix protocol exist. I haven't had experience with PeerTube, but it does exist instead of YouTube. As for Google Drive, CryptPad doubles as a cloud service and I almost didn't notice you had added it!!! I've used it, it's really good, but I'm really eager to try Tuta Drive. Ente Auth is also a really good 2-factor authenticator. Any other recommendations and even those I mentioned can honestly just be found on privacyguides.org and their forum also has some really good information. I'm also seeing recommendations under this post that I didn't know about. Thank you for this post, it's a nice overview of a lot of services I like, as it's honestly hard to keep track of at times(And that's not necessarily bad, it means there are many alternatives!!!).
Can customers use a locally hosted server to bridge Tuta Mail and Calendars to standard IMAP+SMTP and CalDAV apps yet? Clients (the human variety, not the software) and I need at least two capabilities:
See our old Google- and Microsoft-hosted personal accounts, our work accounts, and our new Tuta-, Mailbox-, or Proton-hosted accounts in a single app UI (or perhaps one mail app and one calendar app) for all accounts.
Using that appโsay, Thunderbirdโdrag and drop all our old mail from the Google or Microsoft mailbox hosting it to the new mailbox. Similarly, for some (myself included), bulk moving many calendar events would be essential.
#1 Is necessary for anyone whose work or life depends on coordinating multiple calendars.
#2 Is the a necessary initial step before closing the old Google- or Microsoft-hosted accounts.
I didn't read all the comments but it seems to me, that it is a bad idea to provide bing based search engines as an alternative to Google (MS CEO spend Millions of his wealth to support Trump)
great board of recommandations. I would like to make some corrections:
- Firefox is really not a safe browser since Mozilla's latest changes. - LineageOS is not even advertised as a consumer ready product. They do not implement bootloader locking. You would better recommend iodeOS - better youtube alternatives would be PeerTube, Odysee, Rumble, etc
why is your link saying "goeuropean" when most of these are not are not european? Why theres outdated software listed? Why theres companies listed that are doing shady operations?
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in reply to Tuta • • •Pasquale
in reply to Tuta • • •good, but I have a couple of suggestions:
in Password Manager there is also "Proton Password"
about Android, there are other custom ROMs that support microG (they worth at last a mention to check on xda-forum, if available)
Renarde
in reply to Tuta • • •I would recommend you remove brave off this list, even on a technical standpoint brave products are subpar and you have to disreagard the AI and crypto bullshit in it.
From a moral perspective every cent that goes into brave will eventually be funeled into anti human right campains.
The ceo is antivax, Pro Qanon, Election denialist, homophobe, ...
And finaly from a privacy stand point brave has an horrible track record of hijacking afiliate links, wanting to insert ads, tracking, ...
Renarde
in reply to Renarde • • •Recommending brave is like recommending bing with microsoft edge and getting all your info using Grok.
I would also that Brave AI is well know for paroting Brendan Eich viewpoint, the NY times ran an article on it's election and covid denialism (nytimes.com/2023/03/22/businesโฆ)
So sincerelly stop giving brave any kind of visibility there is absolutly no reason to do so and while alienate people who are explicilty targetted by brave ceo.
Tuta
in reply to Renarde • • •shadowwwind
in reply to Tuta • • •Renarde
in reply to Tuta • • •Please do look into and idealy make a corrected list.
Privacy and open-source are inerently political and by including brave you are making your commiment sounds as hollow as google's.
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in reply to Tuta • • •I recommend Ente Auth as an authenticator app. Aegis is good, but it's not available on PC. Ente is available on PC ( Linux included ), and it's Open Source.
#opensource
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in reply to Tuta • • •I ain't any expert in cryptography or blockchain but weren't there some drama about Session removing Perfect Forward Secrecy, stating that Blockchain is enough (I probably simplified that)?
Something changed or is it just okay?
I also had huge problems with reliability of Session synchronization and receiving notifications but let's leave that
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in reply to Tuta • • •it's worth noting that the @ente 2FA app is available as is a standalone 2FA app from @bitwarden if you don't want to use their password manager for 2FA codes
In my opinion Ente and Bitwarden are really good apps for the average person
Proton (via the pass app) is very good but 2FA is mostly paywalled
Aegis is very good but more suited to the more experienced users who can mange their own backups
jfmblinux
in reply to Tuta • • •Nextcloud Drive
QownNotes with Nextcloud
Nextcloud Calendar
SearXNG
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in reply to Tuta • • •Brian
in reply to Tuta • • •Ente Auth is also a really good 2-factor authenticator.
Any other recommendations and even those I mentioned can honestly just be found on privacyguides.org and their forum also has some really good information.
I'm also seeing recommendations under this post that I didn't know about. Thank you for this post, it's a nice overview of a lot of services I like, as it's honestly hard to keep track of at times(And that's not necessarily bad, it means there are many alternatives!!!).
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in reply to Tuta • • •Ilya Kolotovkin
in reply to Tuta • • •I would add kagi.com as a search engine and Maps :)
And Orion browser from Kagi as well.
@kagihq
#Kagi
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in reply to Tuta • • •ZephyrXero
in reply to Tuta • • •David
in reply to Tuta • • •Can customers use a locally hosted server to bridge Tuta Mail and Calendars to standard IMAP+SMTP and CalDAV apps yet? Clients (the human variety, not the software) and I need at least two capabilities:
#1 Is necessary for anyone whose work or life depends on coordinating multiple calendars.
#2 Is the a necessary initial step before closing the old Google- or Microsoft-hosted accounts.
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in reply to Tuta • • •F4GRX Sรยฉbastien
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in reply to Tuta • • •I tried - and constantly try - to not use google services.
However even a shitty version of google search has vastly superior results to everything else to me.
Mario
in reply to Tuta • • •great board of recommandations. I would like to make some corrections:
- Firefox is really not a safe browser since Mozilla's latest changes.
- LineageOS is not even advertised as a consumer ready product. They do not implement bootloader locking. You would better recommend iodeOS
- better youtube alternatives would be PeerTube, Odysee, Rumble, etc
Hierarchy
in reply to Tuta • • •Alexander
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in reply to Tuta • • •J_Peregrine
in reply to Tuta • • •chips ?
Daniel
in reply to Tuta • • •Aurora Chrysalis
in reply to Tuta • • •Session does not have forward secrecy.
And Brave has a history of inserting affiliate links into the URL and is bloated with crypto stuff.
anorax
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