Is there a way to make the copying file dialog on Windows more accessible? I found out you can actually see which file is currently transferred and at which rate on the screen, which is being completely left out by #NVDASR
The only way I've found to get this information is to use object navigation. I know this isn't that helpful, but it's the only workaround I've so far found.
@Kaliah I think the first issue is that the progress bar is not reported in that case, and I've created an issue for that here: github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issue…
Re how best to convey the other information, I mentioned it in the issue but didn't propose a solution aside from reporting the progress bar. Feel free to comment on the issue with any extra information! For now, object navigation is the best way, but ideally we should at least report the progress bar movement.
Steps to reproduce: Open File Explorer Copy (control+c) and paste (control+v) a large enough file or folder so as to bring up a progress dialog. There is a progress bar which fills from left to rig...
@NVAccess @Kaliah Ok so I know this is ridiculous dumb, but what is object navigation? I'm sure I have used it already, I just can't connect anything to that term. Also thanks for the issue, yes, the progress bars are broken for a while now too, weird.
@Kaliah Object Navigation is a way of getting to things you might not be able to get to with regular navigation keys. EG in that file copy dialog, the only controls you can tab to are things like the pause and cancel buttons rather than the text like current file being copied or speed. In Desktop keyboard layout, it uses the number pad. In Laptop layout it uses NVDA+shift+arrows, and other keys. Here's the section in the user guide: download.nvaccess.org/releases…
@Kaliah You're welcome! Also, not dumb at all. Many people haven't used object navigation - and, all things working well, you shouldn't NEED to for most things - but of course, there are always things which aren't as accessible as we would like, and it's those cases where tools like object navigation can be useful. If you have "Basic Training for NVDA" there is a full section on Object Navigation, and another on the Review Cursor: nvaccess.org/product-category/…
@NVAccess @Kaliah I just wanted to bring up another point related to object navigation. For me, sometimes pressing NVDA+shift+left and right bracket in laptop layout can make it slightly easier to get to things, because with that approach, the navigation becomes flat (I think of it kind of like how swiping to things works by default on the iPhone). On the iPhone you can swipe from parts of an app, such as a list, and then see what's in a toolbar. So with this approach, with these other keys, NVDA+shift+left and right bracket would allow you to see for instance what's in a toolbar without having to first navigate inside the toolbar.
@BTyson @NVAccess @Kaliah I know how to use object navigation, even switching review modes, but I didn't know about the flat navigation with brackets! Thanks for that. Also find object navigation useful when wanting to replace or skip files.
@GamingWithEars @BTyson @Kaliah We added flattened object navigation in NVDA 2023.2, so it's not too old. Brandon gave the laptop keyboard layout keystrokes (NVDA+shift+[ and ]). The desktop layout keystrokes are NVDA+numpad 9 and NVDA+numpad 3.
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Re how best to convey the other information, I mentioned it in the issue but didn't propose a solution aside from reporting the progress bar. Feel free to comment on the issue with any extra information! For now, object navigation is the best way, but ideally we should at least report the progress bar movement.
Reporting progress of file copy (progress bar / details) in Windows 10 / 11
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