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Ready to #deGoogle 💯 per cent?

We've reviewed the top five smartphones that help you go Google-free in 2026.

@volla
@Fairphone
@murena
#SHIFTphone
#Punkt

Which one is your favorite?

➡️ tuta.com/blog/degoogled-phones

Google's Android with a red cross symbol, alternatives with a green tick symbol: Volla, Fairphone, Punkt, Shift, Murena

DeGoogled phones, made in Europe: Fairphone, Volla, SHIFTphone, Punkt – a full review. | Tuta

With the growing trend to deGoogle, European phone makers are becoming popular alternatives. Let’s look at the top five in this review.
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#degoogle #shiftphone #punkt @Fairphone @Volla @Murena - choose freedom!
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Okuna

@andree4live @oneloop additionally, every website you visit you should check if it's hosted in the Google Cloud because that would mean it's not Google Free either.

So the question is, what is the definition of Google Free? For me, it is by default no connections to any Google server, no usage of any Google app, etc. And the control is fully with the user.
And with this definition, as far as I know, there is only #grapheneOS.
Others seem to connect at least to the captive portal or supl or connectivity checks to google server

#grapheneos @SmarTekk @cake-duke
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Okuna

@oneloop yes, their communication habits have been a point of discussion in many forums and from a lot of people, even people who really respect their technical capabilities. I once went to their forum and asked a few questions because i was a newbie and basically they said if I ask one more question in this regards they blocked me from the forum.
But since there is no perfect solution where moral and communication and technical capabilities etc are all perfect, I have to prioritize.
Whenever I needed help from the forum or from people in the discussion forums of GrapheneOS, I got competent and quick help.
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GrapheneOS

Every option you're promoting has atrocious privacy and security. Each one lacks the most basic privacy and security patches/protections.

You're also making highly inaccurate and misleading claims about GrapheneOS. This has been a repeated issue with Tuta. It's not surprising considering you're supporting groups not only scamming people but actively spreading misinformation about GrapheneOS and attacking our team with harassment.

We're going to be publishing a response to Tuta.

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cake-duke

@GrapheneOS @Okuna grapheneOS incessant mud slinging. You're toxic.

social.tchncs.de/@Okuna/115826…

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2026-01-02 18:18:59

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@oneloop yes, their communication habits have been a point of discussion in many forums and from a lot of people, even people who really respect their technical capabilities. I once went to their forum and asked a few questions because i was a newbie and basically they said if I ask one more question in this regards they blocked me from the forum.
But since there is no perfect solution where moral and communication and technical capabilities etc are all perfect, I have to prioritize.
Whenever I needed help from the forum or from people in the discussion forums of GrapheneOS, I got competent and quick help.

@GrapheneOS @Okuna
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GrapheneOS

@oneloop @Okuna No, it's you who is toxic. You engage in libel and harassment along with supporting companies led by serial harassers. Here's the CEO of Murena linking to libelous harassment content from a neo-nazi conspiracy site as part of directly supporting French law enforcement attacks on GrapheneOS:

archive.is/SWXPJ
archive.is/n4yTO

Murena has engaged in very extensive harassment, false marketing and outright scamming. That's toxic, not your lies about us.

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GrapheneOS

@oneloop @Okuna Defending ourselves from endless misinformation, false marketing and harassment including Tuta's repeated attacks on GrapheneOS is not toxic. Tuta should actually try making private/secure services instead of endless false attacks on Proton, GrapheneOS and others. Tuta should really cut out the misinformation and focus on improving their extremely flawed services far worse than their competitors. This is not the first time they're misleading people about GrapheneOS.
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GrapheneOS

@oneloop @Canning1452 As a reminder, here you are spreading a false story about GrapheneOS with absolutely no evidence earlier in this thread while making an attack on us:

mastodon.xyz/@oneloop/11582759…

You're spreading a baseless lie about our team (libel) while having seen absolutely no evidence for it. At the same time, you're falsely accusing us of doing what you're objectively and provably doing earlier in this thread. It's ridiculous how desperate you folks are to attack GrapheneOS.

cake-duke

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@GrapheneOS @Okuna grapheneOS incessant mud slinging. You're toxic.

social.tchncs.de/@Okuna/115826…

♲ @Okuna@social.tchncs.de:

@oneloop yes, their communication habits have been a point of discussion in many forums and from a lot of people, even people who really respect their technical capabilities. I once went to their forum and asked a few questions because i was a newbie and basically they said if I ask one more question in this regards they blocked me from the forum.
But since there is no perfect solution where moral and communication and technical capabilities etc are all perfect, I have to prioritize.
Whenever I needed help from the forum or from people in the discussion forums of GrapheneOS, I got competent and quick help.



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Tuta

@PaintedDurian Good morning, we explicitly mentioned GrapheneOS because it is one of the most secure options out there - but running on a Pixel, we can't really call it deGoogle, that's why it didn't get more space in the article. In any case, we'd like to change anything that's wrong in this article about GrapheneOS so please let us know what we should update. Thanks.
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SmarTekk

Wenn man so denkt gibt es fast kein Gerät welches Googlefree ist. So gut wie jeder Smartphone-Hersteller zahlt Lizenzgebühren an Google. Egal welches System anschließend aufgespielt wird. So gesehen ist ein Google Endgerät zu nutzen nicht mehr oder weniger degoogled als ein anderes Gerät zu nutzen. Wenn ihr näher forscht findet ihr schnell heraus das einige eurer genannter Systeme bzw Endgeräte dem Nutzer nicht die ganze Wahrheit erzählen
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GrapheneOS

It's not a misunderstanding. You're choosing to promote unsafe products from companies heavily involved in attacks on GrapheneOS while misleading people about those and about GrapheneOS. You've been making inaccurate claims about GrapheneOS as part of your marketing for a long time now. Our community and project has repeatedly replied to the posts but yet you've doubled down on it and continue. We'll be asking our userbase to cancel their Tuta subs to support us today.
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Doerk

I would say that even though GrapheneOS requires hardware made by Google, it can be called „degoogled“. Why? Because the phone itself doesn’t use any Google services. It doesn’t phone home and it doesn’t share any data with Google. It’s just a bloody good piece of hardware and currently the best platform for a save and security mobile OS.

But when you consider that degoogling isn’t just stop using any Google services and sharing data with them, but also not buying anything from Google, then it’s probably not degoogling.

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GrapheneOS

Your article promotes 5 options providing poor privacy and atrocious security while making inaccurate claims in support of them and pushing false narratives about GrapheneOS. Misrepresenting GrapheneOS as being a security project rather than a privacy project and downplaying the privacy it provides is a common false narrative from multiple of the groups you're promoting attacking our project and team. That includes posting extreme harassment content towards our team.
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GrapheneOS

You misrepresent multiple of the options you're promoting lacking basic privacy and security patches as being hardened. You're heavily promoting them as private despite them failing to provide standard privacy protections and patches.

Murena has engaged in years of relentless attacks on GrapheneOS inclouding harassment towards our team. We've posted a recent example of them doing it as part of trying to take advantage of French law enforcement attacks on GrapheneOS.

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GrapheneOS

Fairphone is a Google partner with their own OS having official privileged Google Mobile Services integration but yet it's on your list.

/e/ always connects to Google services and has highly privileged integration for Googe apps and services unavailable to other apps but yet it's on your list.

You're making highly inaccurate claims to promote each of the 5 for-profit options you've included on your list including the nonsense claim that CalyxOS and Punkt are hardened.

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Xtreix

"DeGoogle" is the mistake, It's a meaningless term and its imaginary goal is completely irrelevant. All the products highlighted in your article are very poor in terms of security and privacy, and if we are to follow your reasoning, they are not "DeGoogle" in any way whatsoever, they all use Google services and they all depend on Google services, some, such as /e/, include their own intrusive services.

GrapheneOS really improves things, and this can be verified, these other products that you are promoting do not improve things, they make them worse. Presenting them under the guise of ‘deGoogle’ and ‘digital sovereignty’ is not relevant and is not judicious.

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Cory

by that statement can you call any phone trully degoogled they all make querys by default in the background to google most of which you cant control with out heavy restricted use id love to be told wrong in fact how many of the so called degoogled phones run googles dns by default im wondering i have not used some of these new os's but Im pretty positive none of those phones are trully degoogled
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Sora Célestinia 🇻🇪🇵🇸🕊️

I'll switch to Murena /e/OS through the incoming Hiroh phone and Fairphone 6 or higher in the future.

iodéOS and Volla are great too.

I was interested about GrapheneOS but dropped it because of its leader's hammer statements and harassments towards other Android-forked open-source projects, highlighted during the French fake news campaign last November.

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sugargrit

If there's a list of private alternatives to Android but GrapheneOS is just an honoury mention, then there's nothing wrong with questioning the list.

While I'm not defending GrapheneOS's agitated response here, their arguments about questionable security and privacy of the products you promoted seems reasonable.

Tuta is a well respected secure email service. When you recommend alternatives, please keep the same standards in mind.

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Malka Beth

They're essentially all the same design, which is to say multiple camera having, GPS, AIs in the form of digital assistants embedded in them & none have physical keyboards, only Volla is military grade durable in said hardware, but it doesn't work in my country. So for my long-term needs in any smartphone I'd pay for, as they'd work for me year-round, which include having a physical keyboard, no AI and durability, none of these are real options.

Diversity in hardware is needed in the open source sphere, for widespread adoption to be possible. #DisabilityAccessibility #OpenSourceHardware #deGoogled

*I know what amounts to an open source version of a blackberry smartphone does exist, as I believe sliders (with full keyboards & bigger screens than blackberry) do, both being durable but I've yet to see any #deGoogled phones in those different design categories.

#degoogled #opensourcehardware #disabilityaccessibility
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