They'd rather find a way to use a dedicated clients rather than leave such a loophole to the public

very interesting and very happy to hear your product is successful outside "the tech/floss bubble". Can you share more details about how/which public entities are using conversations? (Or provide a reference when you shared it already somewhere in the past). Thanks!

XMPP is a solid and respect standard, so you see. 😀

great news, but a bit risky to rely on that info- won't they be using their own clients, so they could still backdoor civilian ones?

may it be so, friend

@tomjennings Chat Control has exceptions for closed, private deployments. For example Slack or Microsoft Teams won't have client side scanning. (That would be stupid and open the door for corporate espionage, and if anything is more important than the children it's capitalism).
Jabber/XMPP is just a series of private deployments that occasionally happen to be interconnected.
#Conversations_im is a client that can connect to closed, private deployments so it won't get client side scanning.

@gvs @tomjennings private as in only company employees can join that chat. (as far as the law is concerned.) not private as in Microsoft can't read your messages.

I searched for that but could not find any such excemptions....
If they are there, Matrix and SimpleX would also be excenpt. And stating that Teams is a private deployment seems like a wild statement

I wouldn't be so sure about that, after all, the way of implementing it hasn't been specified at all. To make sure the malware is even installed they'd either have to force all manufacturers to make it an integral system component or the mobile providers to not let you online unless your device responds to an encrypted ping for the app. Both would let them turn the trojan off explicitly for phones identifying as belonging to something cop-adjacent.

Interesting. Still, I am wondering how Chatcontrol will affect those who own the servers. Perhaps they will be criminalised because they enable encrypted messaging or something.