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#XMPP is still a thriving ecosystem with lots of good FOSS developers doing interesting things.

XMPP is also used under the hood in tons of products needing instant messaging even if they are not advertised as XMPP clients, or do not federate.

Anyway, XMPP and #matrix all share a strong focus on protocols, but there is a big difference: chatmail.at does not expose protocols to client developers, just a Rust SDK.


> My question is rather: How can #XMPP market itself better to people who want to build instant messaging solutions.

my humble opinion: I would still pick #deltachat / chatmail core to build my client if I had to start from scratch today, with #xmpp I just have a protocol, with delta chat I don't actually need to use the #email protocol at all, only the core library that takes care of dealing with networking and #encryption while all I have to do is to create the UI


well it depends on the context, I am Cuban, that Delta Chat used email was the whole point I started using it and contributing, besides cheaper data plan for national email, you see down there in the 3rd world on an unstable 2g connection at 1kb/s #email, asynchronity and offline-first comes on top of #xmpp which together with #Telegram really struggles to even get connected, in a fast hyperconnected 1st world this might be less relevant until some emergency times or in isolated areas


The big plus of #DeltaChat is that the infrastructure is already there. Infrastructure is a big part of the problem. And obviously using mail for that is only for people born before 2000.

Second is branding: When people hear #XMPP they hear 20 years of failure of implementing robust solutions both server-side and client-side. People just don't know that after 20 years there now are server and client solutions really working.


@arcanechat I’m not 'blaming' Delta Chat for making the wrong choice. And you in particular probably weren’t even around back then.

My question is rather: How can #XMPP market itself better to people who want to build instant messaging solutions.


I have a lot of respect for #DeltaChat (@delta); By all accounts they provide a good looking client and a homogenize experience across platforms. Users absolutely don’t need to care about the underlying protocol!

However there is no way, shape or form in that IMAP+Submission is a more suitable stack for instant messaging than #XMPP.


I consider this a failure on our part but I don’t really know what to do about it. Most arguments against #XMPP don’t hold if you’re building from scratch anyway:

• #Conversations_im looks very outdated: OK, but you are developing your own clients anyway.

• XMPP doesn’t have an SDK: Neither does your #ActivityPub or email stack

• OMEMO is insecure and I would prefer #MLS: Yes, let’s work on that together and you’ll still benefit from XMPP’s 100+ solved IM problems.


As a community, we often ask ourselves how to attract more users to #XMPP. Yet the real tragedy is that people would rather build something entirely new (loosely based on email or #ActivityPub) than consider XMPP. Need end-to-end encryption by default? If compatibility with existing XMPP clients is a secondary concern, you can implement it in your own solution while still benefiting from our two decades of experience in instant messaging.


Do we have an XMPP chat yet for people going to be at #39c3?

#XMPP


#XMPP Community

The XMPP assembly for the #Chaos #Communication #Congress #39C3 in #Hamburg has been confirmed! The space is inside the Critical #Decentralization Cluster habitat.

xmpp.org/2025/12/xmpp-at-chaos…

#ccc #chat #messaging #jabber #standards #opensource
#interoperability #operators


I've just pushed Tor integration in Libervia (first step of the NLnet metadata reduction and serverless grant).

nlnet.nl/project/ServerlessXMP…

This has been done thanks to the work of @meejah on `txtorcon` and of course of @torproject and the support of @nlnet and @NGIZero .

A thought for Lunar who is mentioned in the documentation of txtorcon (for doing the Debian package) and who passed away last year.

#tor #XMPP #Libervia #txtorcon #nlnet #ngi


Gajim 2.4.1 has been released! 🎉

This release brings previews for GIFs and similar animation file formats 🎥, and many smaller changes and bug fixes.

Thank you for all your contributions ❤️ Let us know what you think!

Support Gajim's development: liberapay.com/Gajim

#gajim #xmpp #chat

gajim.org/posts/2025-12-13-gaj…



Si tu as déjà entendu parler de XMPP ou si tu as déjà utilisé XMPP, je serai intéressé d'avoir un petit retour sur ton expérience.

Si tu en a déjà entendu parler mais jamais essayé :

- Qu'est-ce que tu as entendu à propos de XMPP ?
- Est-ce que ça t'as donné envie d'essayer ou non ?
- Qu'est-ce qui te fait penser que ça serait fait pour toi ou au contraire pas du tout ?

Si tu as déjà essayé :

- Quelle a été ton expérience ?
- En quelle année était ton dernier essai ?
- Tu as testé quels clients ?

#XMPP

#xmpp


Petite annonce sympa : J'ai été invité à participer aux Rencontres Hivernales du Libre qui se dérouleront fin janvier à Saint-Cergue, en Suisse.

J'y donnerai une conférence de 1h à propos de XMPP, dont voici le titre et la description :

« XMPP ou comment ne pas réinventer la roue : Messagerie fédérée et sécurisée en 2026 »

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« Oh non ! La messagerie instantanée que j'utilise vient de se faire racheter par un Venture Capital… C'est la 3eme en 5 ans ! »

Et si au lieu de sauter de produit en produit tous les 2 ans, on utilisait plutôt un protocole fiable, standardisé, qui fonctionne depuis 25 ans et qui fonctionnera encore pendant les 25 prochains sans pouvoir se faire racheter ?

Cette conférence a pour but de présenter XMPP et plus particulièrement ses évolutions ces 5 dernières années : Clients modernes, chiffrement de bout en bout, salons de discussion mais aussi les collectifs et communautés qui le font exister. Venez découvrir la messagerie instantanée que vous n'aurez pas besoin de quitter d'ici 5 ans !
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D'ailleurs, si vous connaissez ou avez entendu parler de XMPP, je vous invite à lire le post juste sous celui-ci ↓

#RHL26 @rhl #XMPP



Hey! Movim just introduced chat shortcuts in the navigation bar 👌

When you are mentioned in a chatroom or when a contact sends you a message Movim now displays a direct shortcut to the latest conversations allowing you to go to the related discussion in one click! How convenient! 😸

You can already try it out on mov.im/ or wait for the next stable release ✨

#movim #xmpp #feature


Just received my set of sparkly #XMPP stickers in time for #39C3 !


#XMPP Community

Consider to vote for the brand request in the Font Awesome repository on GitHub to accept the XMPP logo:

github.com/FortAwesome/Font-Aw…

#chat #messaging #jabber #standards #opensource
#interoperability #decentralization #operators #service


I use Font Awesome icons on my presentation cover slides to link to my website and email. It would be great if we could also use them for Jabber/XMPP addresses!

#XMPP is currently the second most requested icon on Font Awesome, and it’s close to reaching the top spot. You can support the request here:

github.com/FortAwesome/Font-Aw…

#xmpp


is #xmpp / #jabber still worth to use or to self host … which server software would you recommend … i had ejabberd years ago on my own system


If a friend bought the #39C3 ticket for you and sent the .pkpass file via #XMPP, those files are now properly identified in #Conversations_im and display with a nice icon instead of a generic unknown file icon.




reporting from Nice, France. Not the best picture of my city, but I happened to see this toot while being at the park with my kids, wearing my #XMPP hoodie. Sky being blue most of the year is one of the perks of my city though. =)
#xmpp


#XMPP made in Bad Hoenningen, Germany
View to "Schloss Arenfels" 🏰
running my own server, selfhosted, Domains: dulcimerforum.de, xmpp.dohdom.de, jabber.ddnss.eu
#xmpp



#XSF Announcement

The 2025 annual meeting and #voting results for both #XMPP #Council and #Board of Directors are out: xmpp.org/2025/12/2025-annual-m…

Congratulations for the new period!

#jabber #chat #interoperability #rtc #xeps #standards #opensource #decentralization #federation #messaging


XMPP Extensions and Specifications

Read about the new #XMPP #extensions and #specifications changes and updates in November 2025:

xmpp.org/2025/12/the-xmpp-news…

#jabber #chat #interoperability #rtc #xeps #standards
#opensource #decentralization #federation #messaging


The XMPP Newsletter for November 2025 is out!

Read about the latest updates in the #XMPP universe and our #standards!

xmpp.org/2025/12/the-xmpp-news…

Enjoy reading!

#jabber #chat #interoperability #rtc
#opensource #decentralization #federation #messaging #newsletter



Decentralised instant messaging applications that use the #xmpp protocol with #omemo encryption, such as #conversations.