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in reply to Talon

Also that recording contains probably one of the coolest thunders I've ever recorded. Seriously this is pretty epic.
in reply to Talon

Wow, this is an amazing recording! Sounds as if I was sitting with you in your garden lounge or something, and we're listening to the weather outside. And that soft rumbling of the thunder is epic!
in reply to Marco Zehe

@Marco That's pretty much what you're doing! I used the Sennheiser Ambeo headset so you're hearing it exactly how I heard it. :)
in reply to Talon

This is really impressive. I've heard of these Ambeo devices, but never got a set myself. I am fascinated by binaural and 3D audio recordings. I also think that 3D Audio in Apple Music, for example, gives music a significant upgrade over the often very compressed and pumped up stereo mixes. But these atmos you recorded are simply amazing. The other one you did inside the house as well. I literally hear you turn away from the window and walk to a different spot, just by the way the sound of the rain on the window pane changes.
in reply to Marco Zehe

@Marco I love 3d sound. Virtual, real, doesn't matter. And if you always wanted to play aorund with the Ambeos, right now might be a good time to get one. I don't think they're making any more, and you can find them on Amazon for around 30 to 40 euros until they're sold out. Need an iOS device with lightning connector though, or a lightning to USB C adapter.
in reply to Talon

@Marco I've been considering getting one of those. You're definitely right about the lowered prices.
in reply to Talon

@Marco I have no idea if they are still making them or what, but the cord on newer models is fantastic!

If ya want to use them on Android, you’ll need to get this:

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-USB-C-Lightning-Audio-Adapter/dp/B07R6MKJZH?th=1

in reply to Talon

I love that there are still birds existing in the middle of a rainstorm.
in reply to Bri😻

@Brynify I know right? They just don't care. They'll hang out whenever.
in reply to Talon

It's weird, I'm not used to seeing birds hanging out during storms, that was kind of a first for me.
in reply to Talon

A pretty epic thunder indeed!
And, especially when I put the volume almost all the way up, it is just as if I'm being there, as if the rain is falling right here.
That is cool. How is it even possible to create such a recording?
(Now I read some replies. It's with some kind of device that's out of production? )
in reply to Draic na n-airscél n-amrae

@storydragon It's using what's called binaural microphones. There are many of those around, it's just the particular ones I was using that are out of production now. Basically the way those microphones work is they sit very close to, or in my case inside, your ears. That way they record everything just how I heard it. There are also external ones that basically sit inside a shape that's relatively close to a human ear to recreate those acoustics. So you can basically record 3d sound.
in reply to Draic na n-airscél n-amrae

Now, would that work for music as well?
If I can find any that are affordable, maybe I can try that.
in reply to Andre Louis

@FreakyFwoof Honestly just the sennheiser Ambeo for that one. I'm looking for a good high quality ambisonic recorder though if you know of any that work well... other than that I have an lsp4, lsp5 and a zoom h2n so really nothing special. And I'm various stages of slightly disappointed with any of those tbh
in reply to Talon

I like the Ambeos, haven't used them in a while but they are great.
in reply to Andre Louis

@FreakyFwoof Especially for how cheaply you can pick them up these days. I thought they'd have sold out by now but I can still find them for just a couple euros.
in reply to Talon

@FreakyFwoof There are three things that really bug me about the Ambeo smart headset.
1. Non-replaceable cable that is easily broken. This bit me once already. I bought them when they just came out, and used to cost $300, and my set only lasted a bit over a year.
2. New firmware limited the output, making them no longer useable for me and my broken ears. Can't roll back.
3. They fall over pretty hard under certain conditions where other stuff doesn't.
in reply to Patrick Perdue

@BorrisInABox @FreakyFwoof they also do some very odd processing on the output from the phone to the headset. Not sure why that had to be a thing that they do. They do feel a bit flimsy though and I'm surprised mine lasted as long as they have.
in reply to Talon

@FreakyFwoof Yeah. I've had my current set for a few years, but since it is not really practical for me to use them anymore, they stay in great condition.'I still have an older, broken set with the old firmware that got louder. I thought of trying to have someone who really knows what they're doing to swap out the processors so I can have that old firmware again, but probably not worth it.
in reply to Patrick Perdue

@BorrisInABox @FreakyFwoof Another problem I have with them is that it's significant work to put them on and take them off. So for quick spontaneous recordings it's always too slow. Especially because I keep them in their bag because I know if I don't I'll ruin them instantly. I do wonder what recordings with the AirPods transparency mics would sound like though. They're much easier to quickly put on. But also probably worse quality.
in reply to Talon

@FreakyFwoof The raw mics themselves without any processing might be OK, but we'll probably never, ever see that happen for reasons.
in reply to Talon

@FreakyFwoof I'd like to get in to Ambisonic, as well. I've used it in mixing, which is great, but different from field recorder stuff. What I really need to make the field recorder playback enjoyable is an app/headset combo that supports head tracking. Maybe AirPods would, after jumping through some conversion hoops.
in reply to Bryan Smart

@bryansmart @FreakyFwoof I'm trying to find a good ambisonic recorder that isn't too expensive. preferably with decent built-in mics, although I'd definitely get external ones if it makes the quality a lot better. So far I've found the Zoom H3 but not sure how well that is to use without sight... I have enough trouble with the h2n as it is and configuring ambisonics properly seems a little painful. Maybe it'd be easier to use an actual laptop with an ambisonic mic, but uh... that's unwieldy in the wild. So I'm not sure.
in reply to Talon

@bryansmart Observe the F3 instead of the H3, because it can be used with the Zoom BTA1 bluetooth adapter which has an iOS app to control it. I have the big daddy version the F6. works with same adapter.
in reply to Talon

@FreakyFwoof H6 is a great machine, but doesn't look like built-in Ambisonic mics. You'd have to connect at least 4 external mics for something basic, which is why I also want one with good internals. There's the Zoom H3VR, but I'd still need a playback solution with head tracking.
in reply to Bryan Smart

@bryansmart @FreakyFwoof I also found the h3 but again not sure how easy that is to use and configure given that it's zoom and these things make no noise at all. I've had some luck scanning the screens of these things with envision but that obviously doesn't tell you which option is the selected one. And it's also super slow. If the f3 also has built in ambisonuc mics then that would be an option
in reply to Talon

@bryansmart @FreakyFwoof The F3 doesn't have any built-in mics at all, and only two inputs, so you don't have enough channels for ambusonics.
in reply to Talon

@bryansmart @FreakyFwoof Also, no input ganging with the H6 as with the F6, so, while it would technically be possible to do raw Ambusonic input, it wouldn't be very fun.
in reply to Patrick Perdue

@BorrisInABox @bryansmart @FreakyFwoof welp, that's that then I suppose. Haven't found anything other than the H3 VR with internal ambisonic recording for now. Maybe the Android with USB C ambisonic mics is the best portable solution.
in reply to Talon

@BorrisInABox @FreakyFwoof I'd be willing to do that, if I had to, but still don't know what to do about the playback. The field recorder appeal of Ambisonics is the VR aspect. Turning your head on playback, and having the recorded environment respond, is amazing.
in reply to Bryan Smart

@bryansmart @BorrisInABox @FreakyFwoof I'd be surprised if there wasn't an app that used Apple's 3d audio framework with headtracking for Airpods on iOS to make this work. I remember YouTube allowing Ambisonic audio, but there you'd have to turn the whole phone.
in reply to Talon

@BorrisInABox @FreakyFwoof Maybe, but haven't found it yet. The existing 3D stuff for AirPods uses Dolby Atmose, I think. Conversion is possible, but there's a drawback I can't recall at the moment. My brain hasn't been booted up for an hour yet, and I still haven't had breakfast or coffee.
in reply to Bryan Smart

@bryansmart @BorrisInABox @FreakyFwoof I've found a bunch of ambisonuc renderers for the web, but those also probably wouldn't give you access to head tracking. So none of this is truly ideal.
in reply to Talon

@bryansmart @BorrisInABox @FreakyFwoof But for me the main usecase would be games, so that's fine with me. That's why I wanted to get into ambisonic recording in thirst place.
in reply to Talon

@FreakyFwoof The best and most accessible one is probably the Zoom F6. Using that for about a month here now and it just works, its sturdy in a way that you can't break it even if you want to, and thanks to the Bluetooth adapter you can do all the stuff you want with it, no matter if its ambisonics, 3 stereo pairs, 6 monos or any combination of those.
in reply to Toni Barth

@ToniBarth It's built like, as we say in the UK< 'A brick shithouse' and it's wonderful.
in reply to Andre Louis

@FreakyFwoof @ToniBarth it's also quite expensive. Probably good for what it does, but it's probably gonna be a while before I get my hands on one.
in reply to Talon

@ToniBarth That it is. This thing ain't cheap and when I needed to get a hold of one, I had to have it hand-delivered from Estonia. What a trip that was. Haha
in reply to Andre Louis

@FreakyFwoof Yep, mine came here from the US and was kinda expensive with taxes on top, so yeah. Definitely an investment though and worth it IMO.
in reply to Toni Barth

@ToniBarth I literally hunted for 4 months to find one in *any* shop in the UK. The things are like gold bricks. Incredibly difficult to find.
in reply to Andre Louis

@FreakyFwoof @ToniBarth I just searched on Amazon and found a couple. But the price ranges from 600 to way above 800 euros. So um...
in reply to Talon

@FreakyFwoof Yep, I think 629 € is the standard price here in Germany, but I payed 800 something because of taxes and shipping from the US so yeah.
in reply to Andre Louis

@FreakyFwoof You'd appreciate this one. Also a storm, but in early Summer, here in the Carolinas, where the thunder doesn't crash so much as it continuously rolls around the sky, following different paths that track real well on binaural. https://www.dropbox.com/s/kd9etfcutt4xp61/2019-06-26%20Rolling%20Thunder%20and%20Rain%20at%20Lisa%20and%20Mike%27s.m4a?dl=0
in reply to Talon

@bryansmart @FreakyFwoof I love thunder. About a year or two ago we had a really crazy thunderstorm with very close lightning strikes every couple of seconds. it was truly insane and I still hate myself for not having anything to record it with. I've never seen anything like that before or since.
in reply to Bryan Smart

@bryansmart I'm currently working on a track and I have this rain on in the background. It's making me less angry. Nice.
in reply to Talon

I love these kind of recordings and these are really, really great. Would it be possible to grab them for future enjoyment?
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in reply to Talon

Ahh that was beautiful, I love rain and thunderstorms! Thanks for sharing :blobcathappy: