Joshua Rogers (who first successfully used ZeroPath to find curl bugs) on his experiences in an open source project where the maintainer suddenly took the AI pill.
Twenty-nine years ago on this day, #httpget 0.1 was released.
I found the tool a few days later and within a few months I became the maintainer. We later renamed it. Twice. The last name it got is #curl. It stuck.
httpget was my first insight and lesson into HTTP and since then I have kept learning it.
httpget 0.1 was written by Rafael Sagula, who unfortunately is not with us anymore.
@ruari Sad but understandable.. I remember httpget. His inspiration to make something new lives with us, and with characters he typed or not, curl has had a massive and positive impact on the world.
I did a software / art project based on old code that was exhibited in Tasmania's MONA.
Though no one would know, or care, I made an effort to use original bitmaps. I felt it was my duty as a "software curator/restorer" to use techniques similar to art conservators. It was just my personal philosophy I felt the software deserved.
Thank you for writing curl, it's super useful for troubleshooting web server backends. I was astounded when I found you on Masto. It's legendary!
hehe I see usage of unbounded string copy functions (buffer overflows), atoi with no validation and building up strings (prob injection) ... maybe archive (disable issues and PRs) otherwise the AI hobgoblins are going to start raising CVEs.
What is the meaning behind "curl"? I would assume the last three letters are URL, so what's the C? Is it just the catchiest prefix to "url" you could find, or does it mean something?
@Prasun it was. The first release under the name wget was actually done on the exact same day httpget was born. But wget existed before then under an earlier name.
¡Buenos días desde la administración pública! Hoy es festivo en todo Bélgica, pero nosotros venimos igual, para servir a los intereses de los ciudadanos de la Unión,. Me embarga un sentimiento de...servicio público tan grande que apenas lo puedo expresar con palabras.
Parece coña, pero si te pones a pensarlo, hay situaciones en las que surge.
Por ejemplo, los bancos a menudo ofrecen condiciones más ventajosas de crédito hipotecario a los funcionarios. ¿Se puede considerar privilegio o ventaja injustificada, o está justificado porque el riesgo es inferior, por la inamovilidad funcionarial?
So, in my quest to write my book, I have come up with some feedback for @libreoffice
Can we please get a tool or interface or something where we can see all the comments on a document simultaneously, and jump to where they are in a document?
Ctrl+Alt+PgUp/PgDown is good, but it was something I had to look up. If the tool to see all the comments and all that was right there next to the add comment button, it would be very intuitive.
He is now creating multiple accounts on seyyahh.com.tr and doing the same abusive following as always.
I suspect he's created that instance himself, since the "About" page is in Turkish and machine translates to a company that appears to be a networking site for the logistics industry, but there are no such posts on the server.
50-year mortgages and 7-year car loans are a way to do a massive wealth transfer from poorer people's future to wealthy people's present. It isn't enough to steal from the present. They want to steal from the future, too.
Massive hikes in university tuition work similarly. Debt incurred today that you pay off far into the future.
it does nothing but continue to let the banks lean on terrible accounting practices.
Mortgages should be no longer than 12-15 years, and even that's a risk because in 2025 there' s no guarantee you can even stay gainfully employed long enough to pay the mortgage. We don't have people getting jobs that they can stay with for 40 years anymore
#Indonesia names former dictator Suharto a 'national hero'
WTH?!
“On Monday, the late #Suharto was among 10 new names added to the list, in a ceremony presided over by current Indonesian president Prabowo Subianto, Suharto's former son-in-law.”
Poslední aktualizace Mastodonu je významově neopomenutelná. Reposty příspěvků byly dlouhou dobou to, co nás odlišovalo od Twitteru ve smyslu šíření negativního. Já jen budu doufat, že tady nebudou zneužívány lidsky řečeno k vysmívání.
Chtěl jsem si vyzkoušet citaci příspěvku a vůbec jsem to nenašel 😃 ono to nejde v mobilním klientu? Možná to nebude tak časté, když to není vidět 😃 @fabia_man
@electricCZ @archos Záleží, který mobilní klient. Oficiální to umí, ale ukáže ti tu možnost, jen když to je u daného příspěvku povolené, ostatní klienty jako Tusky to zatím neumí.
@sesivany Zkoušel jsem to v oficiálním Mastodon klientu, ale nenašel. To povolení se dělá někde globálně, nebo pro každý toot zvlášť? @archos @fabia_man
@electricCZ @archos pro každý zvlášť, ale máš výchozí nastavení, které se ti ukáže při psaní tootu. Je to rozšíření nastavení viditelnosti postu. Já mám třeba u tohoto tootu: veřejné, kdokoliv může citovat.
@sesivany Hm, asi mám něco špatně, ale jednak ten tvůj toot citovat nemůžu, respektive, nevidím tu možnost a druhak ani při psaní nového mi to nic nanabízí a nastavení aplikace taky ne. 🤔 @archos @fabia_man
@sesivany Hm, asi mám něco špatně, ale jednak ten tvůj toot citovat nemůžu, respektive, nevidím tu možnost a druhak ani při psaní nového mi to nic nanabízí a nastavení aplikace taky ne. 🤔 @archos @fabia_man
@electricCZ Aha, moje chyba. Tak se zdá, že má nová verze i hezčí náhledy postu z mastodonu při vložení odkazu a já si to popletl. Pak je už jediná možnost a to, že to appka ještě nemá implementovaný.
@electricCZ Já jsem právě zjistil, že moje Pachli bude mít podporu citace až na konci listopadu. Oficiální aplikace by to měla umět už od srpna. github.com/mastodon/mastodon-a…
The Canadian province of Alberta, where I live, has more cases of measles than the entire US. Our premier and our provincial health minister are antivax and they have prevented public health officials from attempting to speak to the public about the measles outbreak or recommending vaccinations.
The province has also decimated our public health infrastructure. This was a campaign promise of the UCP government, both as punishment for mask mandates, and to make sure no organization could ever have authority to require masks or vaccines again. #Alberta #ABpoli
Canada has lost its measles elimination status after nearly three decades due to its failure to curb a year-long outbreak, the Pan American Health Organization said on Monday, a loss that also results in the Americas region losing the status.
Mastodon 4.5 – Co je nového
Vyšla nová verze Mastodonu s pár užitečnými vylepšeními. Tady je co se změnilo pro běžné uživatele:
Konečně jsou tady citace příspěvků.
For a user-focused highlight of these changes, see https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2025/11/mastodon-4.5/
For changes of particular interest to application developers, see https://blog.joinmastodon.or...
I learned about a new tool today from @hj and the deeper I look the more interesting it gets.
This could very well be the future foundation for a lot of high quality audio/video streaming projects in the open source world. They're doing the right things to make it super reliable at the network layer.
Following the news of Glen Gordon’s decision to retire from Vispero, Double Tap will be airing an extended interview with the screen reader legend this week. Find out more about the man who was so hugely part of the innovation of what became the Windows screen reader.
I'm such a dork. There's this youtube channel called Garbage Time, and so me being me, I start singing, Garbage time, in the tune of Closing Time. - Calah
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After yesterday’s surrender, we’re launching the largest Democratic primary program that we’ve ever run.
We will not back any Senate primary candidate unless they call for Schumer to step down as Minority Leader.
If you’re as pissed as we are, sign up to be part of this campaign to rebuild the Democratic Party. This isn’t about left vs. right — it’s about fighting back vs. losing. indivisible2026.org/?utm_sourc…
After yet another capitulation by Chuck Schumer and Senate Democrats, it's clear we need new leadership capable of mounting a serious opposition to Trump's authoritarian regime.
I do not know if he intended to share it with me, but our 11-yo shared a Google Slides deck titled "The New Chat Room" that is approximately 500 slides long, where each slide is students in his class posting pop culture pictures &/or memes & using the Slides comments to chat with each other about them—I knew that students used this kind of hack to get around school content filters but seeing it in action is something else
Last night the 11yo broke down the Google Slides middle school Chatroom for me:
1. At first they used a Google doc but the infinite scroll was too chaotic 2. In the slide deck each new slide is one “post”—some all text, some images, some both— 3. They use slides’ comments feature to “reply” to each other’s “posts” 4. This allows participants to easily flip between posts using the slide thumbnail navigation, so they can find the conversations they care about easily 5. He owns the file & if anyone spams it, deletes other people’s posts, or gets nasty, he can revert the file to its previous save state & remove the spammer’s access 6. He did share the file with me on purpose, I think because he was proud & wanted me to see what he’d made
Essentially they’ve created a chatroom with moderation in Google Slides, so they can get around the school’s ban on platforms like Discord. It’s kind of brilliant
For some reason, Steve Jobs decided to travel back to the year 1982 and unvail the iPhone at a New York Yankees game, which I was at with my grandfather somehow. Never mind that he hated the yankees, this was two years before I was born, and I don't care about baseball.
Anyway, while we were there, I met this very northern British bloke who asked me if I knew someone called Kara Cogent, a blind woman who would open a sports club in about 43 years. I told him that I did, and I was so shocked about the entire thing that I sat up in my bed, waking up in a dorm room where @KaraLG84 was sleeping. So then I had to explain the whole thing to her and how weird it was.
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Don't stop searching for joy. Track it down if you can. Look in cluttered bookstores, historic theaters, haunted playgrounds, and misty moors. Take joy out for tea, adventure, and gentle mischief across the land.
I’m happy to announce that Mona 7 will be available on the App Store later this year as a new app. I’ll share more details, including upgrade pricing, with you very soon.
To be honest, I get what the monetary model is here and can support that. Paying for a major version upgrade is a decent pattern, get new features that have taken time and effort to build. The problem is that from my point of view version 7 is not a feature upgrade since what it contains is: ⁃ A bunch of GenAI crap that I can mostly ignore but can't fully disable so it's sometimes in the way. (No way to confirm if my post language has been detected correctly, just trust the LLM or always use default, no more language selector for you.) ⁃ Fiddling with live photos that isn't standard or compatible with anything or anyone outside of your app? I hope I'm not accidentally touching it and sending out something that breaks for others. So again niche and dangerous. ⁃ Visual tweaks to conform to LiquidGlass, which I'm willing to tolerate, but it's not a good design language to emulate and after months on v7 throughout iOS 18 and 26, the v6 interface feels so much better now that I looked at it again after a long pause. Getting that interface would feel like a feature release! ⁃ Bug and compatibility fixes, which should be a v6 bugfix update.
So it's a bugfix update plus stuff I need to actively tolerate. Surely you can see why it feels unfair to call it a major version paid upgrade? I'm sure you and some folks like the GenAI crap and spent a bunch of effort on it, but can we just have the bug & compat fixes backported to v6 and then I can go back to that? Happy to upgrade when there's desired features in a feature upgrade. But then the problem is that even if v8 has actual real new features I'd care about, I'd still need to tolerate "v7, the GenAI & LiquidAss edition" being the basis of it.
TL;DR; v7 has felt like an update I could tolerate as long as I thought it was going to be free. Learning it's not flips the value equation deeply into the negative even if given cheap upgrade pricing.
@jeff @jinna May I ask what’s not been honored? Mona Pro Max can be used, fully functional, the same way as when you purchased it, as long as you want, as advertised on the purchase screen.
If I bought an iPhone 16 last year, of course I don’t expect Apple to send me an iPhone 17 for free, and I can just keep using the iPhone 16.
“But I bought Mona 5 and you upgraded me to Mona 6 for free!” That’s a gift, not an obligation.
That is a bad, and totally not write business model. No one buys a phone every year, but a phone is way more expensive than an app. You give very little, not on-device AI, that may or may not train itself on our posts, images, etc. We have no say what we do with language, and other nasty AI stuff. You like your capitalist views, I'll like to go buy another app that is actually worth it and values my privacy and won't train AI on posts, or such things. People should really find a better app, but the direction you are going is seriously... Not a good one, to be fair. Maybe you'd like to re-consider this way of modelling business. In business, the customer is always right. Or they are absolutely free to walk out, cuss you out and continue on their merry way, and you're the only one who loses.
@tardis @jeff I find it rather ironic, and also rather revealing what these latest developments from the Mona people are planning to do. Its quite clear that they have absolutely zero knowledge nor care about their target audience and their values. Uh, "hullo"! its a Mastodon app!?! What the hell does Mastodon primarily stand for? Non-surveillance, non-big tech, non-capitalism, entirely! These developments, and direction of the Mona app are absolutely and completely antithetical to the core ethose, beliefs, and values of which the majority of the Mastodon and wider Fediverse community charish most. Ultimately, it is we the customer who wield the ultimate control, choice, and power to do something about this situation. Its a bit hard to make money on a product everyone hates. Everyone has the freedom of choice, and fortunately, Mona isn't the only one. Perhaps they may come to see the error of their ways, but a PR disaster is a PR disaster, and there's no real way to ever truly recover from that. So the people will do what the people will do, they will speak with their voices, keyboards, and wallets, and if Mona goes down in a wall of flames, its rather unfortunate. It was a good thing there for a good while.
@adam @tardis I won’t go that far. I'm not anti-capitalist, and have no problem with a fellow developer making a living from their work. I've been running the Mona 7 beta and don't see anything in the "direction" of the product itself that is “antithetical” to anything - though, like any feature update, there's some stuff I have no use for.
My only issue is the bait-and-switch. If you sell something, you provide it. If you regret your past business model, you still honor it.
i am not exclusive anti capitalist or stuff like that, but this one deserved a call. The AI is my big, big, huge issue here, and the unclear way in which business is handled. I can't afford the app anyway, but it sure is frustrating to those using the app:
Keep using the app you have, for as long as you want and pay once or:
Subscribe and get features that you didn't want, with a redesign that you say you don't like.
You bought the version of the app you have, you aren't forced to upgrade.
Everyone talks about enshitification, and how subscriptions are bad. If neither one of these methods are used, how are developers supposed to keep a revenue stream?
@fireborn @tardis "how are developers supposed to keep a revenue stream?”
I agree that recurring revenue is pretty much necessary for a sustainable app. Subscription or one-time within a major version (v5, v6, v7) is pretty common for complex apps.
That said:
"You bought the version of the app you have”
It is hardly unreasonable for users to expect what is advertised as a one-time purchase to include future updates, and if these are only within major versions that should be disclosed.
So will this be an entirely new app rather than an update to this one? If so, what will happen to the current Mona app? And why will it be an entirely new app?
@jepyang @matthew Yeah. These days "lifetime" really means "optional annual subscription" where you can continue using the old version as long as your OS will let you
Which, arguably, is better than forced annual subs where you can't use the app at all without shoveling out more money
I don't love it, but I do find it a better compromise than forced subs. You get to use the app as long as your OS lets you, & the dev gets paid for future work IF you find that new work compelling enough
@akrabu @matthew i mean, no chance in hell i’m subscribing to a fucking mastodon app, i would rather throw my phone into the sea.
i dont mind paying once for a decent piece of software, but marketing it specifically in opposition to the subscription apps before transitioning to a pseudo-subscription model feels overtly deceptive in the most techbro way.
sucks to wait over a year for basic bug fixes only to find out those are only coming to new purchasers (if they come at all)
To make Mona’s magical Mastodon experience accessible to even more people, I’m pleased to announce that starting with Mona 7, features that help people share and engage — posting with photos and videos, favoriting, and reposting — will be free for everyone.
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I did a software / art project based on old code that was exhibited in Tasmania's MONA.
Though no one would know, or care, I made an effort to use original bitmaps.
I felt it was my duty as a "software curator/restorer" to use techniques similar to art conservators. It was just my personal philosophy I felt the software deserved.
Thank you for writing curl, it's super useful for troubleshooting web server backends.
I was astounded when I found you on Masto.
It's legendary!
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Seriously though, curl is hands down the best network tool, right after nmap. Thank you for maintaining it so brilliantly for so long.
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