Is there an #E2EE messenger in 2025, that: - doesn't depend on anything US (e.g. not #Signal) - is reasonably secure (e.g. not #Matrix) - runs on all platforms (e.g. not #Briar) - doesn't depend on commercial servers (e.g. not #Threema)
@matrix Mostly the missing authentication of room management messages.
And the underlying issue that the E2EE protocols were all tacked on later instead of made as a whole from the beginning. This makes E2EE extremely hard to reason about implement correctly. The implementations are also hard to use securely by the user.
The Matrix.org Foundation
in reply to Stefan Thöni • • •Stefan Thöni
in reply to The Matrix.org Foundation • • •@matrix Mostly the missing authentication of room management messages.
And the underlying issue that the E2EE protocols were all tacked on later instead of made as a whole from the beginning. This makes E2EE extremely hard to reason about implement correctly. The implementations are also hard to use securely by the user.