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#Android without #Google made easy – with @shiftphones

https://android.izzysoft.de/articles/named/android-without-google-8?lang=en

(the little gap with "Rooting" aka Magisk will be filled soon™)

#noGoogle #googlefree #privacy

Android without Google: Shiftphones

Like the well-known Fairphones, Shiftphones are modular devices. Right from the shop they ship with no bloat, just the minimal set of Google Apps are installed.
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#android #google #privacy #googlefree #noGoogle @SHIFTPHONES
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phillip
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how have I never even heard of Shiftphones? I feel like that is a huge blunder on my part
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IzzyOnDroid ✅
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@koshkodanya @Fenrir Androids CORE is open source, yes (hence called AOSP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)#AOSP). But Google's additions ("GApps" & "GServices") are not, they are proprietary – and thus nobody but its devs can tell for sure what they really do under their hoods. Did you know its Google Services send a ping home every 30 seconds – 2 pings per minute, 2880 pings a day? Or what data is collected regularly and sent along? Not all of us are happy with that 😉
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IzzyOnDroid ✅
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@yuliyan No, but you can unlock it via fastlane. You can even find the fitting boot-image in their forum, to get it Magisk-patched and fastboot-flashed if you like :awesome:
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Totally with Ю :questified:
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Ok, thanks. While this is good vor "Bastler", it is not safe for peope who rely on their devices. Why would one encourage this?
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IzzyOnDroid ✅
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@yuliyan Who is encouraged? If you know where to find it, you can do it. Nobody says you must/should. If you don't have the need, you certainly should not. But if you have the need, you have the freedom.

Remember: Cars are VERY unsafe compared to that. You can drive your car against a tree, or off a cliff – there's no preventing measure built into it. So why … 🙊 Right. Nobody says you have to 😉 (bad comparison, I know – but exaggeration often helps understanding I've heard)
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Totally with Ю :questified:
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You are right. I am too. I react like this because it happens that nontechies are lured into the privacy degoogleisms and start magisking around without knowing the implications AND with the belief that they are securing their devices. Which they are definitely not. This is rarely pointed out, imo.
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IzzyOnDroid ✅
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@yuliyan Noticed that the "Rooting" section in my article is empty? And I still ended up with a degoogled device – without unlocking the bootloader?

To re-use my example: You need a license to drive a car. Sure, you can drive it without a license – but there are good reasons why you should rather not. Same with rooting 🤷‍♂️ (yeah, no license for that, right – but you should only do it if you know the implications and act accordingly).
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IzzyOnDroid ✅
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@yuliyan Btw: Thanks for the reminder. Once I fill that gap in my article, I should include a proper "disclaimer" 👍
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