The whole idea of forcing a sale while forbidding search deals at the same time prevents almost every possible sustainable future for Chromium and even the web as a whole to a certain extent.
@ondra they are not forbidding search deals. They can still sign search deals with anyone who doesn't have dominant share in the market. They were just used to easy money model where they help Google cement its market share and get annual money for it. I understand it is an unpleseant change for them, albeit a necessary one.
The DOJ's plan is to forbid Chrome (with 2/3+ market share) from making those deals. That will remove most of the current funding from the ecosystem. I'd actually be for a predictable phase-out of search deals but why force the sale of Chrome at the same time? Or force the sale but keep the revenue that keeps Mozilla and others afloat.
@sheogorath actually I wouldn't mind Chrome being sold to anyone if Chromium was moved under an independent and neutral foundation.
Just ChatGPT doesn't make any sense if you look at it from the point of view of the problem they are trying to solve. ChatGPT may become another giant on the web which could leverage the browser to push their products. It doesn't solve anything.
Given the huge amount of money it takes to develop a browser, there will always be a huge incentive to turn its users into a product. That means that if we want to keep it a true “user agent”, something that works for us, we either have to pay for it (good luck to those who try) or fund it with public money.
Ondřej Pokorný
in reply to Jiří Eischmann • • •Jiří Eischmann
in reply to Ondřej Pokorný • • •They were just used to easy money model where they help Google cement its market share and get annual money for it.
I understand it is an unpleseant change for them, albeit a necessary one.
Ondřej Pokorný
in reply to Jiří Eischmann • • •Jiří Eischmann
in reply to Ondřej Pokorný • • •Ondřej Pokorný
in reply to Jiří Eischmann • • •Sheogorath
in reply to Jiří Eischmann • • •They certainly won't sell it to anyone outside the US :D
But it would be funny to see Chromium by SAP.
Or concerning with Chromium by Tencent.
So what are the options? IBM? Oracle? Apple? Microsoft?
This is all a bit on fire. And I'm not sure if there is any US company I would consider more qualified in this space than Google. .-.
And I assume that no matter what, Chromium is going go have its funding strangled.
Jiří Eischmann
in reply to Sheogorath • • •@sheogorath actually I wouldn't mind Chrome being sold to anyone if Chromium was moved under an independent and neutral foundation.
Just ChatGPT doesn't make any sense if you look at it from the point of view of the problem they are trying to solve. ChatGPT may become another giant on the web which could leverage the browser to push their products. It doesn't solve anything.
Tomáš Znamenáček
in reply to Jiří Eischmann • • •VildaVedo
in reply to Jiří Eischmann • • •Google was never true evil. As my friend well said.
You have to be careful—there might just be a noble, honorable prince underneath the Lich King’s helmet.
Because if you take him out and let a less principled person get corrupted instead, you could end up with a whole lot of trouble.
Chromium under hands of OpenAI? Please no