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Like the legend of the phoenix, we're resurrecting Mozilla Send, an end-to-end encrypted file share service, and bringing it under our wings as Thunderbird Send. In this clip from S1E5 of the ThunderCast, developer Chris Aquino gives us a sneak peek of the new - wait, old - er, reborn project!

Learn how #Thunderbird Send will help you overcome your file upload woes, respect your privacy, safeguard against abuse, and hopefully change your #email experience for the better.

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Uckermark MacGyver :nonazi:
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oh wow. Will there also be an open source version for self-hosting? That would be awesome!
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@weilawei We touch on this a bit in the clip (towards the end). Right now our current thinking is that anyone can receive files for free, but the sender would need a subscription. This both supports server costs and discourages abuse.

By the way: you're the product if the company is harvesting your data, which we certainly won't do!

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zzz
zzz
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great great news.

Also (and now something totally different) : can you guys please make #Thunderbird light again ? The last UI updates makes it feeling heavy, less reactive, more bloaty ; despite my i5 !

We all just want to QUICKLY browse messages right :amethyst:

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so last time it was killed because it was used for CSAM, warez, etc and it was impossible to regulate. What's changed?
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@msfjarvis verified how? Video is a shit way to announce and explain this
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Harsh Shandilya
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@falken well, it's in the video. They've also said it in the replies https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird/111257758686629056

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@weilawei We touch on this a bit in the clip (towards the end). Right now our current thinking is that anyone can receive files for free, but the sender would need a subscription. This both supports server costs and discourages abuse.

By the way: you're the product if the company is harvesting your data, which we certainly won't do!


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@msfjarvis maybe just post all the details as text instead of a video and then dribbling out the meat in replies
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Tobia Alberti
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Are you by any chance also thinking about bringing back the original Firefox Send experience (a standalone web-based tool) in some form or another?
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exitcode
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Firefox Send was great! I am not gonna use this new service with subscribtion..
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Ryan Lee Sipes ⚡🦅
Ryan Lee Sipes ⚡🦅
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@exitcode totally fair, but it costs us money to host the files and we're not going to monetize the data (in fact it is end-to-end encrypted and only the user has the key, so we can't). So we have to charge to be able to run the servers for the service. But it'll be open source so you can run your own instance if you want to. We will however, provide 1TB of encrypted file storage with a subscription for sharing or just for yourself...
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exitcode
exitcode
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@ryanleesipes so it's a paid service integrated into Thunderbird? Sounds like a bloatware like a pocket in Firefox..
In don't want it in the mail client, make it separate, not preinstalled addon..
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@exitcode @ryanleesipes No, not build-in. Add-ons aren't preinstalled. Thunderbird Send will be an optional add-on.
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Professor Code
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I am a bit curious about the proposed solution of checking file hashes for objectionable content.

Does this mean there will be client-side scanning like what Apple proposed a while back?

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Geoff Berner
Geoff Berner
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you folks are Indigenous then?Which is why you're using a sacred symbol and all? You sought consent to use the Thunderbird?
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Đăng Tú
Đăng Tú
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I like this idea but doesn't new logo bug your eyes?
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@ngdangtu Logo changes are tough, but we're pretty proud of this one! You can read more about it here: https://blog.thunderbird.net/2023/05/introducing-the-brand-new-thunderbird-logo/

Introducing The Brand New Thunderbird Logo!

We asked Jon Hicks, creator of the original Firefox and Thunderbird logos, to re-imagine his iconic design in light of our exciting future. 
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Đăng Tú
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please don't be proud as it make you guy looks like industrial chicken. Which means, no identical and totally cheap. Remember old Firefox and Thunderbird logo? Why was it so beautiful? Aside of professional design, it is distinguishable, meaningful. Thunder from the sky and so does the bird, that why we have a logo of a strong powerful bird protecting a letter like its own egg. Strong, secure, heavy image. Can this logo do that or just like the new Firefox with mirror flipping and color modifying?

So does old Firefox, but that for the other day. Anyhow, can the new logo do what old logo did?

Scaling it down and ask color-blind people to distinguish it with Firefox is probably the most inhumanity torture that one could come up with through out the whole entirely human history.

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benedolt
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Yeees, you guys rock! I used Firefox Send a lot and was really sad, it went away. Thanks for bringing it back! Subscription model sounds reasonable - a cool way to support you guys. :)
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jon ⚝
jon ⚝
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This is nice.
Can we also resurrect the idea of syncing Thunderbird profiles via Mozilla Sync or a similar service?
This could help maintain settings and customisations across environments and devices.
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