As promised, here is an interview with @ryanleesipes from #Thunderbird, on the whole #Mozilla and #Firefox terms of use situation.

We talk about why this had to happen, how Thunderbird will handle their own Terms of Use, what's happening at Mozilla, and what's changing.

youtube.com/watch?v=ctg5QzSt5t…

Clarifying what's happening at Mozilla: an Interview with Ryan Sipes from Thunderbird

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^YouTube

@thunderbird
I have been delaying my financial donation to #Thunderbird until I am able to confirm that NONE of it will go towards #Mozilla .

I've been using #Firefox for years and donating for years.

But with the recent 'spyware' TOS changes, Firefox is now dead to me.

So, can you confirm that when I click the 'Donate' button on the default Thunderbird start page, NONE of my donated cash will go to Mozilla?

(If so, perhaps the 'start page' of Thunderbird could be updated to make that fact clear. I suspect that there may be many others like me who've assumed FF and T'bird are funded by 'consolidated' revenue streams.)

Quick, less edited video to talk about the #Mozilla and #Firefox issue with their recent terms of use, and lackluster explanations:

youtube.com/watch?v=Rc96ISKh2O…

I'm ditching Firefox & Mozilla, and I think you should too...

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^YouTube

Do the recent changes to #Firefox apply to #Thunderbird as well? #enshittification #tech

#Mozilla

Ya está sustituido #Mozilla #Thunderbird en el móvil por #FairEmail.

Hasta he donado para ayudar al proyecto.

The numbers of daily installs of @librewolf on #Flathub in the last month.

#librewolf #firefox #mozilla

Why can't #Mozilla just hire some competent management that stops the dumb decisions?

The only real USP of Firefox is Privacy, why would you drop that and just be the average thing that google keeps alive to avoid an anti trust lawsuit?

That's not a smart business decision, or is it? if so, could you explain what I'm not seeing? I really want to keep liking #firefox and mozilla, but I'm really on the verge of loosing faith here.

@mozillaofficial

Looks like we all need to find replacements for #Firefox and #Thunderbird.

I'm trying out LibreWolf on Windows, but what can replace Thunderbird that's cross platform (Win, Mac, Linux, at least)? SeaMonkey, maybe? Is that independent from Mozilla?

#Mozilla seems intent on profit at the expense of users.

EDIT: Danke für die vielen Antworten. Ich schau mir jetzt erstmal LibreWolf an, ob der alles kann, was ich so brauche.

Na super, #Mozilla läßt klammheimlich sein Versprechen aus den „Terms of Service“ für #Firefox verschwinden, persönliche Daten nie zu verkaufen.

Ich hätte jetzt gern einen grafischen Browser unter Linux mit der gleichen Funktionalität, aber ohne Datensammelei.

Und was ist eigentlich mit #Thunderbird? Kommen da ähnliche Scherze? 😒​

#Datenschutz

But what really worries me are my emails on Thunderbird. I really hope they're being very careful with extrapolating that already awful language to my favorite email client.

#mozilla #thunderbird #opensource

#Mozilla isn’t addressing the number one question: why did they remove this section from their #firefox terms of services?

> * Does Firefox sell your personal data?

> Nope. Never have, never will. And we protect you from many of the advertisers who do. Firefox products are designed to protect your privacy. That’s a promise.

github.com/mozilla/bedrock/com…

We will never ever ever sell your data.

Correction: we will.

#mozilla #firefox

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but to my understanding, @mozillaofficial has in a matter of days:

1. Added a disclaimer to give themselves a licence to anything entered into the browser:
   

   "When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox." ref

   
   

2. Banned sexual content (porn)
   

   "Upload, download, transmit, display, or grant access to content that includes graphic depictions of sexuality or violence," ref

   
   

3. Removed the disclaimer that they don't sell your data ref
4. Embraced web manifest v3 (which breaks ad-blockers) ref

It genuinely looks like they're actively violating their founding principles, purging any & all good-will for the sake of going for-profit..

WTF is going on?

#firefox #mozilla

Mozilla’s approach to Manifest V3: What’s different and why it matters for extension users

While some browsers are phasing out Manifest V2 entirely, Firefox is keeping it alongside Manifest V3 — ensuring powerful privacy tools remain available to users.

^{Kristina Bravo (The Mozilla Blog)}

I used to be a big fan of the #Opera #browser. And what I see happening now with #Firefox is very similar to what happened with Opera.

Opera Software ASA acquired AdMarvel, a mobile advertising company, in 2010. Advertising became the primary business, and the browser was sidelined, dropped its own engine, and was eventually sold to Chinese investors, who completed the enshittification. The spirit around the original Opera was reborn with #Vivaldi, but the engine was lost.

#Mozilla acquired Anonym, an advertising company, in 2024 and started making really worrying decisions about Firefox...

I just hope it doesn't go the same way, for the sake of the Web.

Please do criticise #Mozilla – we need an independent, privacy-preserving, feature-rich web browser, not another tracking-infested piece of garbage software.

However, the frequently expressed opinion that “Firefox should be abandoned because Mozilla is the worst bullshit company” is not helpful. Without #Firefox, all your favourite forks (Tor, LibreWolf, Zen…) would struggle to survive and the Google-Apple complex would fully control the browser market.

cf. @davidgerard
circumstances.run/@davidgerard…

David Gerard

2025-02-28 00:35:44

New Mozilla TOS diff. This is what they just removed:

* Does Firefox sell your personal data?

> Nope. Never have, never will. And we protect you from many of the advertisers who do. Firefox products are designed to protect your privacy. That’s a promise.

The purpose of the new TOS appears to be to enable them to do this - such as for their advertising and AI sidelines.

github.com/mozilla/bedrock/com…

Tos copy updates (fix #16016) (#16018) · mozilla/bedrock@d459add

* ToS copy updates (fix #16016) * Apply suggestions from code review - copy change Co-authored-by: maureenlholland --------- Co-authored-by: maureenlholland &lt...

^GitHub

the clarification is in a blog post, that may not be legally binding. so in my eyes any clarification outside of the ToS is worthless.

If #Mozilla wants to offer AI services or collect and use their users data, this should be a separate opt-in ToS in my opinion, not the terms of the base application.

But TBH #Mozilla is doing too much dumb management decisions these days, so I'm considering to stop recommending it. (colorways, firing #rust and #servo teams, ads for temu and so on)

Does anybody have a good link for a „How to create detailed #thunderbird logs“? I don’t really get how to do it.

I need detailed information what decisions Thunderbird „makes“ in terms of #smime/signatures/verification when opening a mail.

#logging
#foss
#mozilla

No K9 Mail or #mozilla #thunderbird for #apple #ios

That's a shame ...

Read this:

blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mo…

👀 at this:

mozilla.org/en-US/about/leader…

I'm baffled about the myriad of @mozillaofficial structures, amount of directors / C-level people & how to rhyme 'investing in privacy-respecting advertising; with 'draw a bigger circle of supporters over the long run.'

As a long time Mozilla supporter, I was already unhappy about the direction of the last years & this does certainly not bode well for the future. 😞 😩

#Firefox #Mozilla #Thunderbird #Tech #OpenSource

Happy I Love Free Software Day! 💕

Unfortunately, this year I could not join nor organize any in-person celebration, BUT of course I want to share my gratitude to the many, countless #FreeSoftware services I don’t merely use, but actually depend on.

Last year, I decided to focus only on #YunoHost, because it would have been crazy to list all the projects I use and I love.

This time, even if I will most certainly forget someone, I am challenging myself to mention all the #LibreSoftware my life is powered by.

Without further ado, THANK YOU to:

• @yunohost, for powering Nebuchadnezzar
• @fedora, for running my beloved #Framework laptop
• @frameworkcomputer, for designing and building repairable, #Linux-friendly and truly open hardware
• @gnome and @GTK, for being just gorgeous
• @calyxos (thus @LineageOS), for powering my #Fairphone5
• #Obtainium, for making me directly download apps on my phone, and @fdroidorg for distributing them
• #AuroraStore, for proxying the download of apps I am doomed to get from Google Play
• @element, for developing #Synapse, even though the new proprietary Synapse Pro is VERY PROBLEMATIC AND DISAPPOINTING
• #Fractal, for being the most beautiful and awesome #Matrix client ever
• @signalapp, for keeping me connected with the people I love
• @Mastodon, for also maintaining a feature-packed experimental fork (#GlitchSoc), that is what Pan runs
• #Tuba and #Moshidon, for being the most beautiful and awesome #Mastodon clients ever
• #Firefox, for still remaining the best possible #browser choice, despite #Mozilla’s governance messiness
• @openstreetmap, for allowing us to find the right path, both literally and metaphorically!
• @organicmaps, for being the simplest, cleanest, yet feature-rich #OSM client and navigation app
• @protonvpn, for making me browse safely from/to anywhere in the planet and @protonprivacy #ProtonMail, for hosting my email, despite the latest alarming political statements…
• @libreoffice, for allowing me to draft documents with ease, the last of which was my #CV
• #LanguageTool, for preventing me from making embarassing spelling mistakes
• @photoprism, for safely storing and indexing all my photographic memories, on Aby, and for providing stellar and friendly support too!
• #Actual, for moderating the very likely risk of ending up completely broke, since it forces me to manage my finances consciously and coherently
• @readeck, for storing and sorting ALL my varied and overwhelming inputs
• @nextcloud, for storing and synchronizing my data, for its #calendar, its #tasks, and all its awesome apps
• #Rustdesk, for preventing my friends and family members from going crazy, by allowing me to remotely connect to their devices and directly address the issues they have
• #Listmonk, for sending out my newsletter
• @eleventy, for powering all the websites I maintain, above all the virtual representation of my mind, and for being the only reason why I resist and try to continue learning #JavaScript
• @forgejo, for giving us a chance to truly control and collectively develop the sources of our software, but most importantly @Codeberg, for RESISTING, RESISTING, RESISTING, despite the hatred and attacks nazi assholes throw at them
• @musicbrainz for keeping music knowledge open and free, and @ListenBrainz for scrobbling the crazy music I listen to
• The @fsfe, for promoting this celebration and fighting the good fight!

Lastly, but most importantly, the biggest thank you goes to all the free software libraries and dependencies the above mentioned #software are made of/built with, including #C, #JavaScript, #Python, #Rust, and all community-maintained programming languages.

I am super sorry if I forgot someone!

#OpenSource #ILoveFS #SoftwareFreedom #Fairphone #Android #LineageOS #FSFE #OpenStreetMap #PhotoPrism #LibreOffice #Readeck #Eleventy #11ty #GNOME #Signal #forgejo #Codeberg #MusicBrainz #ListenBrainz #MetaBrainz

Nebuchadnezzar

Information and insights concerning the configuration and maintenance of Tommi’s server.

^{Tommi (Tommi’s mind)}

Except for FOSDEM, there has been no significant activity on @mozillaofficial whatsoever. The fact that a local community @mozillacz does way better job promoting Mozilla's products is… weird, to say the least. Come on, guys. You should really step up your game here. Where else should you connect with your target audience if not here?

#Mozilla

Dear @thunderbird :
I want exactly zero notifications for me and for the desktop users I support using the upcoming #Thunderbird 134 when it's released.

Will there be an easy option to disable all such notifications ?

support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/n…

#Mozilla #FreeSoftware #Email

#Mozilla Settles Case Over Its Refusal to Hire Apple Activist

bloomberg.com/news/articles/20…

Mozilla Settles Case Over Its Refusal to Hire Apple Activist

Mozilla Corp. has agreed to settle allegations it refused to hire a former Apple Inc. software engineer because of her prior labor activism.

^{Josh Eidelson (Bloomberg)}

Save Social Media From Billionaire Capture: freeourfeeds.com?

"But it will take independent funding and governance to turn Bluesky’s underlying tech—the AT Protocol—into something more powerful than a single app."

I see the executive director and president of Mozilla Foundation as their technical advisors, no surprise. But it surprises me to have the executive director of the Social Web Foundation (@swf) there.

Any thoughts, @evan ?

It also surprised me to see Jimmy Wales, Founder of Wikipedia, involved.

#ActivityPub #ATProtocol #BlueSky #SocialWebFoundation #Mozilla #Wikipedia #VentureCapital #SocialMedia

I often hear that #Mozilla got into trouble after they let Brendan Eich go, that that was the point where political voices overrode technical merit. In fact, these projects have a lot of momentum, these things take years to work out. It's actually the strategic leadership of Brendan Eich, who was CTO since 2005, that got Mozilla into trouble.
Today I came across a nice example of this from 2007.

Source @torgo: torgo.com/blog/2007/03/browser…

It has now been eleven years since I switched over to do Open Source full-time when I joined #mozilla

daniel.haxx.se/blog/2013/12/20…

I go Mozilla

In January 2014, I start working for Mozilla I've worked in open source projects for some 20 years and I've maintained curl and libcurl for over 15 years.

^{daniel.haxx.se}

Happy Birthday, @thunderbird!

#mozilla #thunderbird #free #opensource #linux #happybirthday

A public sector funding initiative should pick up #Mozilla #Firefox and drive it as a community browser indepedent of #Google funding.

A browser is by far the single most impactful gateway to computing resources for people nowadays. (Right after a mobile OS.)

It must not be allowed to fail.

zdnet.com/home-and-office/netw…

#OpenSource #OpenWeb #PublicSector #PublicMoneyPublicCode

Why Google's legal troubles could hasten Firefox's slide into irrelevance

Fewer people than ever use the once popular web browser, but Mozilla remains profitable thanks to Google. How long can that trend continue with the Department of Justice coming after Google?

^{Steven Vaughan-Nichols (ZDNET)}

Reason to celebrate: the email client #Thunderbird celebrates its 20th birthday. Please remember the parent #Netscape-Suite too. It's been 30 years.

@thunderbird #mozilla

20 Years of Thunderbird
updates.thunderbird.net/en-US/…

20 Years of Thunderbird!

Thunderbird is a free email application that’s easy to set up and customize - and it’s loaded with great features!

^Thunderbird

@mozilla why the f*** do you accept money from Temu? 😮

You should get some basic standards.

#Mozilla #Firefox

What Is Your Dream for #Mozilla?
mozillafoundation.tfaforms.net…

You're invited to take a moment to share your thoughts by completing this brief survey.

Question 1: What is most important to you right now about technology and the internet?

- Protecting my privacy online
- Avoiding scams
- Choosing products, apps, technology, and services that I can trust

[…]

The form is oriented to have you saying they should go for AI.

It's a pleasure to answer instead "protect online privacy".