"if only there was a #chat app that had end-to-end #encryption, without phone numbers or any private data required for registration, #decentralized, easy to use, with multi-profile and multi-device support and available in all platforms"
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in reply to ArcaneChat • • •š±š“āš °ļøš³ļøāā§ļøš§š Ambiyelp
in reply to ArcaneChat • • •It doesn't have quantum resistant encryption, SimpleX and Signal do, SimpleX is also decentralised with multi-profile, no private data for registration and available on linux android windows and macos
Quantum resistance is important now because of an attack vector called Store Now Decrypt Later >
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What makes quantum computers SO powerful?
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in reply to š±š“āš °ļøš³ļøāā§ļøš§š Ambiyelp • • •@ambiguous_yelp
> Quantum resistance is important now because of an attack vector called Store Now Decrypt Later
that would apply in a centralized server with access to all messages, but with #DeltaChat you can use a trusted server or your own server and then the attacker can't "store now" because communication between you and your delta chat server is already encrypted with quantum-resistant encryption
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in reply to š±š“āš °ļøš³ļøāā§ļøš§š Ambiyelp • • •@ambiguous_yelp
> SimpleX is also decentralised with multi-profile
but it doesn't have proper multi-device support besides the UI is pretty bad, not user friendly, not on the level of mainstream apps like #WhatsApp or #Telegram, see this #SimpleX screenshot for example
š±š“āš °ļøš³ļøāā§ļøš§š Ambiyelp
in reply to ArcaneChat • • •Custom backgrounds are far from an essential feature and anyway its not like the main messages are unreadable, this is easily fixed anyway I doubt it will be like that for much longer
Multi device support is a harder problem, but simplex still tackles it better than protocols with similar threat models like briar messenger or cwtch messenger for which there is essentially no multi device support, (and with briar not even a migration feature not sure abotu cwtch yet)
You alluded to simplex's Linked Mobiles feature have you tried it? it is surprisingly easy to use you just scan a qr code and after at most a couple of seconds you can use the same profile on a different device
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in reply to š±š“āš °ļøš³ļøāā§ļøš§š Ambiyelp • • •@ambiguous_yelp that was just an example, and ofc everything can be improved :)
currently I don't see SimpleX as a serious alternative to #WhatsApp I could recommend to my mom
š±š“āš °ļøš³ļøāā§ļøš§š Ambiyelp
in reply to ArcaneChat • • •It has gotten a lot more usable in the past 2y, the UI used to be a lot harder to navigate and you couldnt even trust it to reliably send messages its definitely a growing userbase amongst hardcore privacy enthusiasts and I expect it to get more polished
Also I don't think you give people enough credit I've got a lot of my friends both online and irl to message me there and no one has complained about the UI before obv you know your mom but I suppose it comes down to how much she cares abotu privacy and anonymity, imo motivation matters more than making tech solutions more pallatable to people who realistically dont care about the same things we do, but privacy and anonymity is a pillar of democracy and a last line of defence against fascism so everyone should care about it if they understood