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I thought I was going crazy since #Today I can't find any obvious mention of #Dovecot and #ChatMail servers.

BUT, here it is: github.com/chatmail/relay/tree…

Based on the kinda snippy text there in the readme, I guess the #DeltaChat folks decided they want to down-play the dovecot dependency in case they decided to do something else in future.

Also, "custom builds" might make some folks ... itchy.


Installed #DeltaChat on my phone.
Gonna try setting it up for the first time later.

Posted from toot in termux on my phone 😂




@delta @arcanechat
#bugreport: when tapping on an attachment in #arcanechat and #deltachat, it asks me what app to open with, but it never works.

if i open this pdf with pdf reader, it opens an empty "null.pdf".

if i "save as ..." with #materialfiles, it throws an error, see screenshot.

however, long-pressing the message and "export attachment" works just fine.

i report the issue here because i recently deleted my #gitslop account. ✨💩


we need to make alternatives like #DeltaChat more popular, it is decentralized and people can migrate from server to server without losing their messages, chats or contacts, in fact your contacts don't even get disturbed by your migration, your data is really owned by you and you are not tied to a particular server, we need more software like this

what is more, it has offline-first in-chat mini-apps that can replace several online centralized services




#deltachat does

- no bindings to public handles/numbers

- no address-book upload

- not do public contact or group discovery

- not have critical persistent server state (!)

Social identification is private, between people though ephemeral #P2P #E2EE messages.

Servers see messages with random sender and recipient addresses, but those can not be mapped to a phone number or public handle. Servers see IP addresses. But you can use Tor, or a VPN, if you want to hide that.

It' not all bad :)


#ArcaneChat is just a #DeltaChat client, my main user is... wait for it... ME! so it is basically Delta Chat with some tweaks to my taste, I shared it and it turns out some other people seem to like it, according to the #GooglePlay downloads it is mainly used in #Russia, #Cuba, #USA, #Iran, #Germany and #India

I don't actively try to convince people to use it, and in general it is better to push for DC that is multi-platform, then in #android some might prefer AC as their DC client


@opensourceopenmind similarly, I got my family and friends to talk to me via #DeltaChat because I simply don't have #WhatsApp, #Telegram etc. in my phone, I never try to convince them talking about encryption or open source, I simply say "I don't use that apps, you can reach me in this one" and then it is about a practical problem and not ideological one, I don't go saying "you should uninstall whatsapp now" but they are more willing to respect/understand your own ideological decisions

@bogo



#Signal a deux défauts, et ils sont politiques :

- Il est étasunien;
- Il est centralisé.

C'est là où #Deltachat pourrait sortir son épingle du jeu. Je songe à y migrer. En attendant, je suis sur Signal depuis cinq ans et j'y reste; c'est déjà difficile de convaincre mon entourage…

Je pense que #Matrix, bien qu'ultra-sécurisé, est trop complexe pour ma mère; il restera sous-utilisé, à moins qu'on ne trouve une façon de l'encapsuler dans quelque chose de plus simple.

Suis-je seul à penser ça?


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or... you could use #DeltaChat that makes encrypting #email so easy that even your mom will be sending you encrypted email (even verifed fingerprints safe against MITM) without even realizing it or knowing what is #PGP


thanks for putting up one more server. Is there a way to be chosen randomly by people installing #DeltaChat for the first time?

I'd be curious what your experiences are after a year or so; daily users, bandwidth–, storage– and hosting costs.

Thanks for putting it up! 🤗



@TagHunt currently, #deltachat works everywhere, including china where it's a kind of secret tip on remaining securely connected when cross borders.


several people reporting lately that #deltachat has become their main app: They are now spending more time in the chats, also with web apps, than in any other app. It may be a turn to more private communications when social media has become more toxic, obnoxious and dangerous in many places?

#deltachat and #chatmail.is indeed about being readily available when other forms of communications become unavailable or dangerous like in Iran or Russia but also in western and other countries.


Hello @delta

I'm puzzled, the #DeltaChat Android app (from the Google play store, 2.34.0) doesn't offer to set a video chat instance

The version 2.11.0 from the FDroid store does.
Is this intentional?

The first one is set to English, the FDroid one to German

Side problem: while the web version of #FDroid also shows me 2.34.0 the "app store" on #EOS always downloads 2.11.0. It even offers an update but the version stays on 2.11


we welcome scrutiny but prefer co-ordinated security-disclosure via

github.com/rpgp/rpgp/security/… and

github.com/chatmail/core/secur…

We'd be surprised if you find a "0day" exploit against standard #deltachat users but certainly prefer you finding something than eg putin/khomeini-aligned hackers.


what I don't get is why you take this opportunity to attack #pgp in general, like taking the opportunity to push for some agenda, the site is called gpg.fail, GPG not PGP, most of the problems are related to gpg or some C code implementation bug, or using gpg and others in the command line and getting tricked by some ansi printing in the terminal, how that translates to "let's kill pgp"? ex. none of the listed problems affect #DeltaChat at all

(I was present in the gpg.fail talk btw)


@wmd there are many computer people pretty happy with #deltachat ... who value precisely that they can use it with their families and friends easily, though.

With a lot of alternative software, the complaint is that it is only usable by specialists. We are pretty happy that in our case it is more the specialists who need to work harder and read the FAQ to understand that some lines of traditional thinking about eg email and pgp do not apply delta.chat/en/help


It's true: the more technical background and pre-conceptions you have, the more more likely you run into trouble with #deltachat 😂
Don't think so much! 😉


Hey guys, I am reviewing delta chat as a signal alternative. Does anyone have any best practices recommendations?

So far I like that you can add all of your devices under one profile so we don’t need the separate phone numbers silliness signal has

#deltachat


я использовал #xmpp месяц,и ... #DeltaChat / #ArcaneChat лучшое что есть❤️🥛
я другие мессенджеры тоже тестировал #Session / #SimplexChat / #Signal ну такие себе,у каждого есть свои жёсткие минусы



@jan once details are published, and #39c3 is over, well take another look. But note that #deltachat's usage of #openpgp is intentionally minimal. #Gpgfail is a lot about failures of signature verification, and parsing problems in the gpg c-implementation but #deltachat doesn't use these mechanisms or code at all. The @rpgp folks are still studying the details, and there might be issues, so maybe also follow them for more details. Again, this doesn't affect deltachat as things stand.



Quite a few of #deltachat #chatmail and #webxdc folks are already and will be around #39c3 -- on-site you can join a group chat (or send us a DM upfront) where we announce dynamically scheduled sessions. You'll find us mostly around Komona but also other places ... for more info:

delta.chat/39c3.html

PSA: Influenza is spreading heavily currently, and 30% of people are infectious without symptoms. Please maintain hygiene and at best test yourself before entering premises. Thanks!


hey @delta ,
is it possible to add "identities" to accounts in #deltachat when used as email client ?

eg. using user1@ acount, but would like to reply from thatthing1@ (some alias email) to some senders...


I got couple from family and 20+ students using #deltachat with me. It's a start! 🤓