Read all about our plans for Thunderbird on Android... and please join us in welcoming @k9mail to the Thunderbird family.

Blog: blog.thunderbird.net/2022/06/r…

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FAQ: blog.thunderbird.net/2022/06/f…

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in reply to Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox

>K-9 Mail officially joins the Thunderbird family.

In other word, Mozilla is buying K-9... fuck.

Hope someone fork it if the Thunderbird spyware/crap come to it.

I like (and use) Thunderbird, but the fact that it loads a tracking web page when you start it, the fact that analytics is opt-out and the fact that it's a full browser is really shitty.

in reply to Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox

Whoa! Didn't see that one coming! Still, I'm cautiously optimistic about this. #K9 has been great for a long time, but short on marketing and funding. #Thunderbird has more recognition, but no #Android app. The two together could definitely be stronger than their separate parts. Plus, to be honest, I was wondering how long it would be before K9 got in trouble for the name/logo combo. This neatly sidesteps that before it's even a problem!
in reply to Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox

Hello Thunderbird.
As much as I like to see more crypt-automation (thanks), I would REALLY like to see an implementation of AutoCrypt in Thunderbird INCLUDING an indication of trust. See implementation at Threema: threema.ch/en/faq/levels_expl
PLEASE can you integrate AutoCrypt as soon as possible!?
Many thanks.
in reply to Café-Junkie

there is an FAQ response regarding Autocrypt support in Thunderbird:
support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/o…

When viewing an email with a digital signature of a correspondent, the signature icon indicates what level of trust you have for the sender's key, details can be seen by clicking the icon.

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in reply to Kai Engert 🔑✉️ (:KaiE)

2/2 -> EN (siehe 1/2 -> DE)
Hello Kai.
It seems to me that TB doesn't really want encryption.
:'-/
Otherwise you could combine the best of both worlds: ALWAYS create a key automatically for each account, ALWAYS send it (in the header), BUT point out if it is not verified.
It's not that difficult to advance email encryption!
DeltaChat or Threema can do it too.
in reply to Café-Junkie

[1/2] Hi, let us jump in real quick:

Thunderbird wants to support end-to-end encryption, and implements it.

What Thunderbird doesn't offer is fully automatic opportunistic encryption, because there are various associated risks, and it can have undesirable consequences for users, such as no longer being able to access your email from webmail or other clients, or losing your email archive if you haven't taken care of private keys.

@kaiengert

in reply to Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox

Thank you for the answer.
But don't you think there are already easy solutions for the risks mentioned? For example:
mailvelope.com/ for web access,
saving emails decrypted locally or automatically backing up the keys within the local mail folders,
key sharing platforms etc. ...
I do understand the concerns. But it does not help encryption to wait for a solution for every single edge case.
in reply to Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox

DE:
Danke für die Antwort.
Aber gibt es nicht bereits einfache Lösungen für die genannten Risiken? Z.B.:
mailvelope.com/ für Web-Mailer,
Speicherung entschlüsselter E-Mails lokal oder automatische Sicherung der Schlüssel in den lokalen E-Mail-Ordnern,
Key-Sharing-Plattformen usw. ...
Ich kann die Bedenken durchaus nachvollziehen. Aber es ist der Verschlüsselung ja auch nicht dienlich, auf die Lösung für jeden Grenzfall zu warten.