So remember how I was saying you shouldn’t have to know or care if your operating system is immutable for an immutable operating system to be usable by everyday folks? (You know, clever folks, like brain surgeons and astronauts, not just your regular garden variety tech hobbyist with time to spare following instructions from a wiki.)
Seems others think so too… #VanillaOS sounds very promising. #Fedora #Silverblue folks should take some notes.
https://vanillaos.org/
#os #design #linux #gnome
Seems others think so too… #VanillaOS sounds very promising. #Fedora #Silverblue folks should take some notes.
https://vanillaos.org/
#os #design #linux #gnome
Vanilla OS
Vanilla OS is an On-Demand immutable Linux based distribution which aims to provide a vanilla GNOME experience.vanillaos.org
mray
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •Hm. "Community" directly links to discord, code is hosted by Micrtosoft. #AlignedValues
Other than that, neat. Makes me curious what a "Chocolate" Distro would be like…
treefit
in reply to mray • • •I hate to say it, but discord has still better UX than element.
I haven't really tried mattermost or rocket.chat yet, but my hopes aren't that high from what I heard.
Still all those are probably usable so it's not a real excuse, but convenience does matter to most normies. 😩
mray
in reply to treefit • • •But I get your point, even without having used Discrod. It still says something about a community that asks members to maintain walled garden-accounts in order to participate, though.
treefit
in reply to mray • • •mray
in reply to treefit • • •#Codeberg
treefit
in reply to mray • • •Like yeah transifex is bad, also in terms of usability - its really laggy, but migration is quite some work and will our translators follow us to a new platform?
mray
in reply to treefit • • •Incidentally Codeberg just recently added a translation service (weblate)… I'm certain your contributors would understand a move towards that direction.
treefit
in reply to mray • • •Also ideology is not everything, shooting yourself in the foot because you aim for perfectionism is not a wise move, because it blocks your time from achieving actual good, like should I stop using public transport because they are hanging up cameras? I can walk too, just takes way longer 🤷
treefit
in reply to treefit • • •BTW nothing is set in stone you can join deltachat and move the translations in this direction and convince the others with arguments to follow your approach. 😉
Pauxlll Kruczynski
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •Nah :tg_rose:
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •In Fedora Silverblue, every change you make can be reverted, even updates, because OSTree works like a `git`, where everything is a commit.
In Vanilla OS, this does not happen. And every change you make to the system is permanent. `almost` only achieves immutability by setting the `i` flag on all files and directories, nothing else.
jollyrogue
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •Alpine Linux has a couple of modes which are immutable. I think it’s data mode.
The way forward is probably figuring out how to get logind to spawn a container for each account and use a transparent / overlay per account for system level customizations. I have no idea how that would actually work, so I’m just stringing words together. 😆
wizzwizz4
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •On an unrelated note, this website is really hard to read. All the icons are text, there are big flickery flashy images when the page loads, it's completely broken in reader mode somehow, and – fascinatingly – I have to turn *on* the screen reader to access FAQs past the first? (I "Click to Expand", but nothing's happening.)