# "Using LibreOffice and other Free software for documents as a lawyer"
I was asked recently about how I get on using LibreOffice for document-related legal work, and I promised to write down some thoughts.
The short answer is that I use a mix of LibreOffice and other FOSS tools, and I’m very positive about it, with no particular concerns.
If you have questions, please do ask!
Christian Schwägerl
in reply to Neil Brown • • •Neil Brown
in reply to Christian Schwägerl • • •@christianschwaegerl
No idea, I'm afraid - I do pretty much everything I want with keyboard shortcuts, and so don't worry overly about it being "modern" or not!
Christian Schwägerl
in reply to Neil Brown • • •Neil Brown
in reply to Christian Schwägerl • • •Hanno Zulla
in reply to Neil Brown • • •@christianschwaegerl I'm switching between word processors based on the task and often, there's no way for me to figure out where anything is in MS Word, while I find it intuitively in LibreOffice.
Once, I literally spent an eternity figuring out removing yellow highlighting in MS Word because I wasn't prepared that there are two distinct types of yellow highlighting in the software that look the same, act differently and are found in very different non-obvious places of the user interface. (There are a lot of Google hits of people asking for help with the same problem in MS Word, so I'm not the only one who tripped over this.)
Yes, LibreOffice isn't a UI beauty, but MS Word's reputation of being user friendly can only be explained with muscle memory of people who trained on these weird inconsistencies since years and by now are able to stop thinking about them.
Christian Schwägerl
in reply to Hanno Zulla • • •LibreOffice
in reply to Christian Schwägerl • • •DigitalStefan
in reply to LibreOffice • • •@libreoffice @christianschwaegerl @hzulla when someone offers feedback about your UI they aren’t under any obligation to cite exact reasons for their dislike nor are they required to be accurate in their comparison.
The message is they don’t like it and they don’t feel it is modern. It is enough of a concern for them that they avoid using the software.
I’m not saying I agree or that you should do anything about it, but your…
Whatevs
in reply to LibreOffice • • •Christian Schwägerl
in reply to Whatevs • • •LibreOffice
in reply to Christian Schwägerl • • •[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2025-Nov-05 – The Document Foundation Mailing List Archives
listarchives.libreoffice.orgChristian Schwägerl
in reply to LibreOffice • • •Doug Barry
in reply to LibreOffice • • •Dan 🏳️🌈🇦🇺☁️
in reply to LibreOffice • • •I'm reading the comment by @christianschwaegerl and hearing "it has grey. Windows 9x had grey. Therefore the design is 90s".
Can't please everyone I guess. Keep up the good work guys!
@hzulla @neil
Bern
in reply to LibreOffice • • •@libreoffice @christianschwaegerl @hzulla Personally I find the LibreOffice interface refreshingly functional, after the persistent nightmare that is ribbon interfaces. ("Why use one click when you can force users to do it in three?")
FWIW, my 15yo much prefers it, too, so it's not just "what I was used to in the 90s" (or "before Office 2007 made everyone re-learn how to use MS Office from scratch", as the case may be).
Femme Malheureuse
in reply to LibreOffice • • •@libreoffice @christianschwaegerl @hzulla Imagine choosing not to use a screwdriver or hammer because they don't look different than they did when last used a decade or more ago.
LibreOffice works. It has worked. It's what Microsoft has feared for two decades even if it doesn't have a glossy corporate-funded 2025 appearance.
Bonus: Libre Office isn't going to steal users' IP to train its LLM.
/choir-preaching
Christian Schwägerl
in reply to LibreOffice • • •dandels
in reply to LibreOffice • • •@libreoffice @christianschwaegerl @hzulla I grew up with the 90's Windows UI and have formative memories of using MS Office as a schoolkid in the early 2000's. A few years later the ribbon UI appeared, making me not find anything, while Windows has lost all semblance of the visual clarity it had in those days - I know enough about computers to have forgotten more than most will ever learn, yet I'm also blind to Windows 11's new context menu's copy/cut/paste icons.
LibreOffice intuitively works "the way office suites have worked all my life". I'm glad that when I need it, it hasn't gone and changed to follow some new (or resurgent old) design trend.
Careless redesign doesn't work for Windows, it doesn't work for MacOS, and it certainly doesn't work for for underfunded FOSS productivity tools used by millions of people daily. Change can be good and necessary, and I certainly tend to resist it at first, but change also needs a good justification. Constancy and stability over time is one of the best features for a tool to have.
And if you read this far, thank you so much for your work.
Mensch, Marina
in reply to LibreOffice • • •argv minus one
in reply to LibreOffice • • •Oh neat! I see the notebookbar has gotten some TLC since I last tried it. Looking good! Gonna go ahead and turn it back on and give it another try.
Thanks for all your hard work!
@christianschwaegerl @hzulla @neil