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Here's a screenshot of #K9Mail's current message view. And two more showing what the NEW message design will look like! 👀

We've added some comments in the margins explaining some of the new features and UI elements.

Thunderbird for Android is taking shape, and it should be here before Thunderbird Supernova releases next summer!

(Note: This is by no means final, still a lot of polish and work to do)

#OpenSource #FOSS #Email #Android #Thunderbird

An email from Edsger W. Dijkstra to Alan Turing, viewed in the current version of K-9 Mail, an open source mobile email client.
The new message view, redesigned for the upcoming Thunderbird mobile app. The screenshot shows various comments on the new features and updated UI.
The new message view, redesigned for the upcoming Thunderbird mobile app. The screenshot shows various comments on the new features and updated UI.
#android #foss #email #opensource #thunderbird #k9mail
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Dave
Dave
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I like the direction this is moving towards.

I've been a bit disappointed in K-9 so far, so I'm looking forward to seeing how it evolves with the transition to Thunderbird!

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Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox
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@Mundon Understandable, Dave. K-9 used to be essentially one core developer, and now he has a LOT more resources and help.
@Dave
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Adam
Adam
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Here's some tips about mobile app design. If you're holding a phone, normal humans can't reach buttons at the top of the screen with their thumb without using a 2nd hand. It's better to put the buttons where fingers can reach them so that buttons are easier to use. bookofadamz.com/smartphone-gra… #UX #Design
#UX #design
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Joel Fernandes 🐧
Joel Fernandes 🐧
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A 🐧developer from below the stack here. Appreciate it if you can plan for iOS support in your roadmap. Much love ❤
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fileneed
fileneed
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I'm sad server search dissapeared recently from my K-9. I only use phone for emails when AFK, so only few mails now and then get to the local store in the phone.

Any plans to bring it back?

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Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox
Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox
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@fileneed Server search is still there and works pretty much like it always did. But, we only support it for IMAP accounts, and only for a single folder at a time (not aggregated folders like the unified inbox). f

First go to the folder, perform a local search, then tap the "magnifying glass with a cloud" icon to trigger the server-side search.

Hope this helps!

@fileneed
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fileneed
fileneed
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Of course it helps, thanks a lot! I didn't notice the difference between my actual Inbox and the unified Inbox, as I only have one account. :blobaww:
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Michael Downey 🚩
Michael Downey 🚩
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Looks very stylish, on the right track! But now the message content is less than half the screen. Maybe it can be tightened up a bit...
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Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox
Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox
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@downey You can expect a LOT of tightening up. This is just to inform the design, definitely NOT the final design. We want to put these revisions in your hands first, and get lots of feedback.
@Michael Downey 🚩
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Viguro Niort ⏚
Viguro Niort ⏚
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Looks promising! An idea of the memory footprint? (please think about old smartphones)
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Ralf 🇪🇺 😷🚲🇺🇦
Ralf 🇪🇺 😷🚲🇺🇦
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I'm not sure yet, wether I'm happy to have Thunderbird on my Pixel, too or sad to not have K-9 anymore. ;-)
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Max
Max
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I look forward to it very much!

Can you already say if there's going to be a public beta?

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Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox
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@max There definitely will be, just as we do with Thunderbird. When that happens, we'll let you know right here!
@Max
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Pete
Pete
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I can't tell from the screenshots, but will the menus to move an email to a folder be streamlined? The current four-step process of Menu -> Refile -> Move -> Folder is one of the main reasons I switched from K-9 for a while. I'm back now, but it still chafes to do that for each email!
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Luci 🐇🏳️‍🌈
Luci 🐇🏳️‍🌈
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I don't like it at all. I prefer the K-9 mail design, it is 500% more understandable right now. Hope you can correct all the design in this thunderbird android.

PD: the header is overloaded, there are more buttons in the mail and that sticker saying the mail name isn't very helpful

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Hotmail Official
Hotmail Official
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Do you have / are you considering a feature where custom rule-based notifications can be configured? (e.g. if email comes from a particular address, or is sent to a particular mailbox, then use a different notification sound) Rule-based notifications was something I loved about the Touchdown Android app back in the day, and it's a feature which is much more at home on mobile than on web/desktop.
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Carwyn Nelson
Carwyn Nelson
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This new design looks a lot prettier, and the text styling seems a lot more readable (larger line spacing ftw), but I do think that the header takes up too much space compared to K9 today which seems more focused on the content. Maybe there could be a compact mode that makes the header much smaller?

All that being said, I ❤️ all the work and backing that Thunderbird is putting into K9 mail.

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Julian Andres Klode 🏳️‍🌈
Julian Andres Klode 🏳️‍🌈
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I'd like a nice threaded view without the step in between. Just like Gmail has, basically message cards in a list view you can tap to expand. One less level of navigation.

I mean basically everything should look like Gmail app.

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CubeOfCheese
CubeOfCheese
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I'm confused between Thunderbird Ryan and to:alessansra. Is Thunderbird Ryan doused to be the name of one of my accounts? Or is Alessandra the address of my account?
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Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox
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@cubeofcheese "Thunderbird Ryan" is the name that the recipient (the user of the app in this screenshot) has given their account.

And Alessandro both sent and received that email, which is probably why you're confused 😜

@CubeOfCheese
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CubeOfCheese
CubeOfCheese
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oh okay. I just think the Thunderbird Ryan is taking up a lot of vertical space when the to: field is already present
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PrivacyFirst
PrivacyFirst
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Is that native PGP support? The same for the desktop app?
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Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox
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@reboot46 Right now, K-9 utilizes OpenKeychain. (more info: docs.k9mail.app/en/current/sec…)

However, our plan is to included native OpenPGP functionality at some point, but not right away.

Keep an eye on our roadmap: developer.thunderbird.net/plan…

Android Roadmap - Thunderbird

Android Priorities through the summer of 2023.
developer.thunderbird.net
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PrivacyFirst
PrivacyFirst
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The OpenKeychain GitHub states:
"WARNING: This software is no longer actively developed."
They haven't published any new version or security fixes at least since May 2021, and had no changes in the repo since August 2021. Why would any non-technical person use software this old? It is not maintained for almost a year and a half.
It seems to me like a potential major attack vector.
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Fell (Akkoma)
Fell (Akkoma)
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This will be a great step towards independence from big service providers. I've been using #K9Mail and #Thunderbird for a few years now, and I can't wait to see them married.
#thunderbird #k9mail
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Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox
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@xinomilo @fell Maybe you're not thinking about the fact that using Thunderbird for your Gmail account eliminates a few things:
-Ads in Gmail
-Extensive and creepy tracking
-Complete lack of customization

We think that DOES give users some freedom. And if your argument is they should just ditch Gmail, that's not easy for some people, for a variety of valid reasons.

@Fell (Akkoma)
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