What's the state of #matrix, #xmpp and #IRC as far as #screenReader -accessible clients are concerned? Desktop (Windows, Mac) and mobile (iOS, Android).
Hoping for some input, please feel free to boost. As far as I know:
Matrix does not have a lightweight, fully accessible client for desktop, but one could be modified, such as #gomuks. On mobile, Element has scrolling issues, which is unacceptable for large rooms.
XMPP has accessible desktop clients (I used to run #Adium on the Mac), also #WeeChat. No idea about mobile.
IRC is perhaps the one which everything supports on desktop, from #MirandaIM through Weechat to the old Freedom Chat, which I could probably rewrite if I had to. Also not sure about mobile, but it would definitely need push notifications, because we can't expect people to stay constantly online on the go. #a11y #accessibility
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André Polykanine
in reply to Erion • • •Jamie Teh
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in reply to Jamie Teh • • •zrzz
in reply to Erion • • •Actually there has been quite a bit of progress, Goguma (mobile IRC client) is probably the best representation of this.
codeberg.org/emersion/goguma/s…
You'd need a modern IRC server that has direct support for webpush. I believe Ergo is the only option at the moment.
Failing that the IRCv3 chathistory feature is the next best thing but this requires periodic poling.
And for older servers you'd have to use a bouncer. Soju is a good option for that since it supports webpush.
goguma/doc/notifications.md at master
Codeberg.orgErion
in reply to zrzz • • •Do you know if this support screen readers? It looks perfect at a cursory glance.
Ergo would be my first option as far as a server's concerned, it has some pretty amazing features out of the box.
zrzz
in reply to Erion • • •Basic Android TalkBack seems to work but I can't judge how it is in practice. The app is developed using Flutter so I imagine it works about as well as other Flutter apps do. I also see a couple of places in the code that seems to tweak various labels for screenreaders.
The author @emersion would be able to confirm.
Erion
in reply to zrzz • • •Huge thanks for taking the time to check, based on this, it seems quite promising, at least the author is aware of screen reader users which is always a plus.
I can't test it as I don't have an Android-based device myself, but this is a good start.
modulux
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Peter Vágner
in reply to Zvonimir Stanecic • •Onlinux desktop there is fractal. Which will hopefully becomes accessible enough on windows as well when GTK4 accessibility matures in one of the upcoming 4.18+ versions.
For XMPP the onlydecent and accessible client app is conversations on android.
Others are either not verry screen reader accessible or are lacking in features.
Zvonimir Stanecic
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