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Three years ago I blogged about #OpenSSL's decision to deliberately block #QUIC progress in the world: daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/10/25…

Which is timely with the OpenSSL 3.4.0 release announced just days ago: that still does not offer a working (and performant) QUIC API. (yes, there is an attempt there but it's not production grade)

It's almost like the writing was on the wall already a long time ago.


Since #openssl does not seem to fix any of the remaining #QUIC API problems in their upcoming 3.4 release, it will keep lagging behind.

openssl-library.org/post/2024-…


I just learned there is a #QUIC in the #Linux kernel effort: github.com/lxin/quic

... as a draft PR making curl use it was filed: github.com/curl/curl/pull/1431…


According to @bagder the stubborn way the #OpenSSL project is handling #QUIC implementation is directly responsible for delaying HTTP/3 adoption (1), and I tend to agree. When the project rejected the community QUIC patches and decided to go with their own design, it wasn't difficult to predict problems. This was proven right by the massive feature gaps (2) and performance issues (3) discovered by @icing when trying to marry OpenSSL QUIC to #curl. Even with API fixes released in version 3.3 the implementation is still inferior, and there is no good solution in sight.

1) lwn.net/Articles/983380/
2) github.com/openssl/openssl/dis…
3) github.com/icing/blog/blob/mai…


unfortunately, the new #openssl version does not do #QUIC good enough for #curl to consider removing the experimental label from it:

curl.se/mail/distros-2024-04/0…


Protocol geeks might like the new proposals on how to do #QUIC over TCP/TLS: datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/… (called Streams) and then how to do #http3 over Streams: datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/…

Discussed on the #HTTPbis mailing list.


Building #curl using #OpenSSL 3.2 #QUIC?

github.com/curl/curl/discussio…


The #curl #http3 and #quic support egg.

(also from my coming Friday talk)


"The #OpenSSL project really seems to be in a dead end for me, it's incompatible with #QUIC and unfixable performance-wise" / Willy Tarreau

mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/…


April 6 at 10:00 PST (19:00 CEST) @icing and me run a webinar titled "All Things QUIC" about HTTP/3 and #QUIC with #curl and #wolfSSL. Sign up here: us02web.zoom.us/webinar/regist… - I will also live-stream the event on twitch.tv/curlhacker


XMPP End of the Year Talk 2022!

Let's have a good time with the #XMPP Community folks!

Short talks:
- On #ActivityPub, #Movim, #Prosody development, XMPP + #QUIC

When: 6th Dec 2022, 19:00 CET (tomorrow!)
Join via this instance: bbb.sfconservancy.org/b/ste-fd…

(technical issues as always)

#jabber #standards