OK #Blind #Linux people, is it really worthwhile to consider dual booting @elementary or at least testing it out in a VM? I’m probably not going to be able to give up windows completely, correct? What can I do natively under Lennox and what can’t I do? How is word processing, spreadsheets, making presentations? How about editing music notation? what works, what doesn’t, and what am I going to be giving up in terms of time and efficiency? Boosts appreciated and input very much welcome. #BlindMasto #BlindMastodon #BlindFedi @mastoblind @blind #OpenSource #ElementaryOS #ScreenReader #Accessibility #A11Y
in reply to Noah T. Carver πŸ‘¨πŸΌβ€πŸ¦―πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

You have a couple of options that are accessible. #slint linux, #fedora. If you go the Fedora route install 41 then upgrade to 42 after it is installed. Use the #mate version.
If you try #slint things should work out of the bo, but it is #slackware based so the package install process will be different than most systems if you need to install something that isn't there yet.
in reply to Noah T. Carver πŸ‘¨πŸΌβ€πŸ¦―πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

@mastoblind CC @zersiax & @fireborn; hope it's okay to ping. Sorry to bother, but I believe y'all are the resident Blind experts on Linux. Any input from either of you would be greatly appreciated if either of you is willing to give it.
in reply to D.Hamlin.Music

@dhamlinmusic @zersiax @fireborn Used Linux, Fedora, for just about a year. If you're fine with Firefox and Chrome, Chrome being buggy sometimes, and Thunderbird, Pidgin, Audacious, Audacity, Emacs with Emacspeak, VS Code, stuff like that, you're good. Oh and LibreOffice for basic formatting and such. You'll be getting a pretty stable screen reader, with no official addon support. A small community of blind users, but a large community of people who can give you commands to run to get just about anything textual or automation-wise. You can even remap modifier keys on your keyboard. The biggest draw is the command line/Terminal, which works very well with Orca/Speakup. Orca in the GUI terminal emulator, Speakup in the console.

The biggest downside is that not many blind developers develop for Linux, and you may need to use the web version of some stuff like Zoom. Also the only accessible audio editor is Audacity, so no Reaper even if it is available for Linux. It's honestly shaping up to be a great home for anyone that doesn't need blind-specific software or games, and even games are pretty well handled by Audiogame Manager and such. But no Paperback, no Bookworm (blindpandas book reader), no Tweesecake, none of that nice stuff. And no Orca scripts, no built-in OCR or AI, none of that. For OCR, you'll need to track down OCR Desktop.

As far as Elementary, I tried it a year or so ago, didn't like something about it, maybe something to do with Alt-tab, and went back to Fedora because it's much more up-to-date.

A few tips:

* Choose a distro that has up-to-date Orca, ATSPI and such. Don't fight your distro just to have updated AT, unless you know about Backports and other Debian stuff.
* Join the Orca mailing list. [1]. The Orca maintainer, and ATSPI maintainer are both there, and listen. For work I needed to navigate by tabs on a page, so the Orca dev made tab groups lists, and tabs list items.
* Read Orca's documentation,

[2]For any Linux distro, Desktop Environment, or app maintainers reading this: If you want your distro to be accessible, ethical, for everyone, ETC., don't wait for blind users to come to you, join the Orca mailing list and ask for feedback. You'll get plenty as long as we know our feedback isn't going into a nebulous triaging system never to be noticed by anyone with the power and care to change things.

[1] Orca list: freelists.org/list/orca
[2] Orca Documentation: help.gnome.org/users/orca/stab…

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