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*sigh* submitted an issue asking for some accessibility work to be done to a software package and the response was "there's no audience for this, someone who actually uses a screen reader should submit this request". I am definitely not the person to reply to this and have no idea how to do so in a reasonable manner.

#accessibility

#Accessibility
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Sam Whited
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@NVAccess @nellie_m @pixelate @FreakyFwoof I just realized y'all are the NVDA devs; I don't have access to a Windows machine, so I've never tried it, but I've heard great things! Thanks for what you do, and thanks for being on fedi, it's exciting to see you here!
@NV Access @Andre Louis @nellie-m @Devin Prater :blind:
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NV Access
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Thank you! It's great to be here - such a wonderful community!

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who are these lunatics answering phone calls from unknown numbers and why are we polling them for election opinions?

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NVDA 2024.4 doesn't seem to read auto-completion info in chrome anymore, anyone have ideas as to what I can do to fix this? I hope it's just a me thing.
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NV Access
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@twynn Thanks Andre, I can replicate on Gmail's login page - what site are you looking at? I originally tried with the autocomplete suggestions on google.com and that DOES seem to work. I created an issue at: github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issue…

Please do comment on the issue with any extra info there.

Autocomplete suggestions not read in Chrome · Issue #17360 · nvaccess/nvda

Steps to reproduce: Go to the GMail sign in page Start typing an address you have used before so it offers a drop down list of suggestions down arrow through the suggestions Actual behavior: At Ste...
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Andre Louis
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@NVAccess @twynn Anything. Everything. From homebridge to PiHole to anything that wants my name/other details. Every single site I've personally tried since 2024.4 has failed. I can't think of one that hasn't.
@NV Access @Timothy Wynn
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NV Access
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@twynn It does seem to be a change in Chrome - I tried 2024.3 and 2021.3.5 and it worked exactly the same for me.
@Timothy Wynn
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Doug Lawlor
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@NVAccess @twynn I just added a comment on GitHub to this issue confirming the same thing is happening on my system.
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x0
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@NVAccess @twynn While we're talking about changes in chromium, is anyone else getting the weird thing where cursor movement by caracter in edit fields is just, slow and half the time reports the wrong character now? Especially on DIscord I notice this, with regular text mind you not mentions and fancy embeds.
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Tamas G
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@x0 @NVAccess @twynn I've seen this behavior more in Chromium-based UIs (like Slack) if there's a multiline field with multiple lines of text inserted. Depending on which line you are on, I think the cursoring can be offset by one or two positions, which is interesting and I suspect may have to do with the factors of how the line breaks are calculated in relation to the cursoring, but it's just a hunch for me.
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x0
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Or text wrapping. That's probably a separate issue though. I know it behaves a bit strangely when you try to focus a user mention in discord but like, it would. It's a button in an edit field.
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NV Access
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@twynn It's really no different to any other site - you need to create an account, but that only requires an email address (and creating a password).

It's just comments here will get lost and people fixing the problem will only look at the issue itself.

@Timothy Wynn
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Florian
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@NVAccess @twynn Yeah with respect, that is bullsh**. Reporting an issue on GitHub requires a bunch of extra steps, including:

- Navigating to the right repository;
- Finding the new isue button;
- Picking the correct issue type;
- Figuring out the issue creation interface;
- Filling out the issue template which involves figuring out what bits can be removed and what bits can't be;
- providing logs/other reproduction evidence.

While it is absolutely true that all of this is possible and for a lot of folks not all that hard, it is also true that for a significant amount of users this is way, way more than they want to bother with. I don't have a solution to this, perhaps a UI for users to report issues from within NVDA might lower the entry threshold, but let's not be dismissive about the complexities of filing/interacting with GitHub issues here

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This explanation is already complicated. With respect, you guys need a simpler way of bug reporting. Especially with the amount of people who use NVDA. Not everyone is going to bother creating a github account. It also goes from the fact that, github is complicated for most people who don't have knowledge of how a lot of things work. Github is complicated even for some of us who know how to report bugs. Let's just be realistic. It might've worked before, but it's not going to work that well nowadays.
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Tamas G
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@tardis @zersiax @NVAccess @twynn yeah, I think the cognative load to use GitHub is quite high if you are not coming from the dev space and know some of it already. I get that this is just a comment on an issue and you are amazing for pre-creating it at 17360, but for someone to go through account creation and profile config just to add a single comment is a bit too much. And yeah, sadly a good solution will probably be harder to implement.
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NV Access
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@zersiax In fairness, 90% of that is NOT true IN THIS CASE given my suggestion to Andre to look on GitHubt was AFTER I had created an issue with the details he provided, and I included a direct link to the issue.

I'm not arguing that GitHub is the easiest site for everyone to use - but in this case, I did do most of the work.

The reason for encouraging people to use GitHub is that is where the developers are - the ones who fix issues. If they have a question, they won't find you here to ask.

@Florian
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Florian
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@NVAccess You still need a GitHub account to begin with, which a lot of non-developers quite simply have no use for whatsoever apart from meeting NVDA in the middle, you need to work how the interface works which has like 1000 things in it that the average non-developer isn't going to need/use, find your way to the correct issue which at times is easy if you're given a direct link but at times really isn't, etc.
GitHub's great for developers and open-source enthusiasts. You're not dealing with developers. You're dealing with end users who in no way agreed, nor want, to help you develop a tool they need to get work done. You're dealing with people who are happy they got a free alternative to a 1000-dollar+ product that nevertheless needs to work exactly like they want it to, and that's not a fair hand, but it's the one you're dealt. So yes, you did most of the work, but the remaining work is going to make users not bother because you're asking plumbers to sign up for MIT
@NV Access
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Jamie Teh
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It's not like reporting bugs against most paid products is any better. Try reporting a bug against an Apple product, for example. Even assuming you manage it, you have the added advantage there that it'll go into a void and you'll never know whether there was any progress on it. Users aren't required to comment on GitHub. They just shouldn't necessarily expect any progress on bugs they report if they don't. There aren't staff paid to spend hours every day making sure comments from 5000 different places end up somewhere they can be actionable.
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Kara Goldfinch
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@zersiax @NVAccess Well put. I wonder how many people want to raise an issue but don't because of dealing with GitHub.
@NV Access @Florian
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Jamie Teh
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@zersiax @KaraLG84 @NVAccess Sure, but those same people will happily figure out (and create accounts for) Facebook, Instagram, some random forum, Reddit, shopping site or whatever which is likely far less accessible. And that's entirely their prerogative. It's all a matter of priorities and that's fine.Some of the process described here is also inaccurate. There's a link to the NVDA GitHub repo in quite a lot of places, so the user doesn't have to find the repository. Users are often provided direct links to the new bug form or the issue they are interested in.
@NV Access @Florian @Kara Goldfinch
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Florian
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@jcsteh @KaraLG84 @NVAccess I thik forums, shopping sites etc. have far more of a ROI for the regular user, though. Forums have friends on them, reddit is a longterm thing that they can use for a whole bunch of different types of discussion, shopping sites are for buying stuff. Github ... is jsut because some developer doesn't want to meet them halfway and insists on having users make this account for maybe the one specific issue they're wanting to report/weigh in on that they may never ever need again afterwards. Not saying that never happens anywhere else but it does up the friction by a good bit
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Jamie Teh
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@zersiax @KaraLG84 @NVAccess I totally agree the ROI is likely lower, which is why I said it's all a matter of priorities. Maybe it just doesn't matter enough to the user to have their issue reported, and that's totally fine; that's their choice.
If we were talking about a paid product here, I might agree that it's reasonable for users to be met where they are: email, social media, whatever. If that's important to paying customers, you could have a dedicated person paid to do just that: maintain various support channels and make sure things get to the right place. But we're not talking about a paid product. Part of the expectation when you aren't paying for something should be that you don't get some of these niceties. We still want a way for users to report problems, sure, but they might have to go to just a little more effort to do that if it really matters to them.
@NV Access @Florian @Kara Goldfinch
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NV Access
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@jcsteh @zersiax @KaraLG84 Also worth mentioning that we DO meet users where they are. I did create the issue which started this thread. I recommended the user subscribe to it on GitHub in case there were any follow up questions etc, but I regularly create issues from emailed questions, social media posts etc. Try emailing Google and asking them to file an issue for you on one of their products....
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Alex Hall
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That's true. Every time I mention NVAccess to complain, no matter how frustrated and uncharitable I might be, whoever is behind this account always replies and, if it's something that should be tracked, they make an issue for me and send me the link.
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Andre Louis
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For all Q was a little excentric, he did have an in-app feedback reporting system. Perhaps building that into the help menu would get more issues reported in a concise and informative way. Hell, build it as an addon and crowd-fund it in the way NVDA Remote was if needed. I'm a power user of a lot of products, and I'm not here to be made to feel incompetent just because I found git-hub beyond irritating to use as a non-developer. I have things to do and need to do them. If getting such a venture off the ground costs money, I'll be the first to donate to something meaningful, if that means I don't have to go near git-ub. I am not stupid, but git-hub has a way of making me feel such. I don't at all appreciate it.
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Jamie Teh
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@NVAccess @zersiax @KaraLG84 Putting maintenance and development cost aside, an in-app system isn't going to fix some of the issues identified here (granted not necessarily by you), for example the need to create an account. There just can't be a system without accounts these days given rampant spam and abuse on the internet.
Beyond that, I think it's constructive here to think more specifically about reporting or commenting on an NVDA issue, vs "using GitHub" in general. The former is a subset of the latter, but a much simpler subset. For example, if I open a direct link to the new bug page:
github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issue…
I'm immediately popped into a text box for the issue title. The next text box (just a few tab stops away) is the comment box, where you fill in the questions provided.
Similarly, if I open an existing issue, for example:
github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issue…
The only text box on the page is for a new comment, with the "Comment" button nearby. Existing comments are all marked with headings so you can navigate to and read them.
So are there specific problems with these two forms or is it more that you find these direct links hard to discover? If it's the former, it'd be good to understand what, not least because we wouldn't want to repeat the same problem with a new system. If it's the latter, perhaps we can do better at making sure those links are easy to find.

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Andre Louis
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@jcsteh @NVAccess @zersiax @KaraLG84 I believe I was tasked with reporting issues on something called JamTabba back in 2008 or so. I made an account at that time on github, and of course that's a damn long time ago. I attempted to report issues as requested and ran into I don't know how many problems doing so. Admittedly it kind of tainted my view of github as a platform, and downloading from it in the intervening years hasn't really helped with that. I'm sure they change the name of the button every other week. From Code to Assets, I'm almost sure it was called Master at some point, etc. It's like going to the supermarket, where everything moves from place to place just when you started to understand it. With this particular issue, I admit I didn't once click the link and that's on me. My assumption was that it hadn't gotten any better. I take full responsibility for not looking into it beyond that.
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Jamie Teh
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@NVAccess @zersiax @KaraLG84 I get it. Your opinion of something gets tainted and it takes a long time to undo that. I'm no exception. I'm also not here to defend GitHub. They still have a lot of work to do. On the other hand, no one is asking you to use the other parts of GitHub, just the issue creation and comment forms, and as far as I can tell, those are pretty reasonable these days, regardless of how they were how ever long ago. Of course, anyone may disagree, but it'd be helpful to understand *why* they disagree, because the first piece in figuring out a solution is clearly understanding the problems we have.
@NV Access @Florian @Kara Goldfinch
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Jamie Teh
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@zersiax @NVAccess @KaraLG84 If I recall correctly, the NV Access site has a link to the GitHub project, but I'm not sure if we have direct links to the new bug and new feature forms. If we don't, that would probably be helpful, perhaps even in the NVDA Help menu or similar. I certainly agree there are areas of GitHub that are very suboptimal in terms of accessibility. Even the page to choose the type of new issue report has no useful headings, which is ridiculous, hence my suggestion of direct links. And yes, the releases section of GitHub is confusing to non-devs - most people don't know what the hell an asset is - but NVDA users are never asked to use any of that.
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Jamie Teh
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@KaraLG84 @NVAccess @zersiax Going beyond even that, I understand some users will struggle to provide steps to reproduce, expected results and the like. Unfortunately, the only way to solve that is to have someone at the other end continually following up with questions and guiding you through the process. That might be reasonable for a paid product, but it just doesn't scale for a free one. Maybe something to consider would be paid email support in addition to the existing telephone support option to allow for things like that. Just to be clear, I don't have anything to do with operations at NVA these days, so any suggestions I make here carry no real weight; they're just ideas.
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thanks for saying that. If tech makes us feel super dumb and stupid, then it's not intuitive to use. I understand github is for developers, but the reporting page, or whatever it is considered, should be intuitive to use, not only to developers, but to the average person as well. and currently, github's structure is everything but, useable...
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NV Access
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@zersiax @jcsteh @KaraLG84 Whatever reporting system we used would almost certainly involve the user creating an account. Try reporting an issue against Windows, or Chrome, Firefox, any other piece of software and you generally need to have it create an account on often something which is unique to that product. Ok you may not use GitHub for anything but NVDA, but it's no harder to use than anything else and it IS accessible.
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Yadiel Sotomayor
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@NVAccess @zersiax @jcsteh @KaraLG84 I'm sorry, but I echo Florian. average user does not care/does not have the technical knowledge to work around github. Hell, I consider myself a fairly technical user, and I find submitting issues on github annoying at best. With things like jaws, all they have to do is send an email. Now, I know that would not work with NVAccess, but something simpler would benifit the screen reader tremendously.
@NV Access @Jamie Teh @Florian @Kara Goldfinch
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Yadiel Sotomayor
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@NVAccess @zersiax @jcsteh @KaraLG84 A huge reason why JAWS is still very much the default in affluent countries is how technical NVDA and its documentation tends to be. Especially for new users. Every student I have worked with mentions that. There is no doubt NVDA is superior in many ways, but until NVDA becomes more approachable, it will mainly be used by highly technical people, or those who do not have any other choice.
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NV Access
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@ysotomayor @zersiax @jcsteh @KaraLG84 That is feedback I have not heard previously! Our Basic Training for NVDA tends to be highly praised for how readable and well structured it is. We have also recently included a quick start guide in the use guide and as previously mentioned, we will create issues if you email or message us (and I'm engaged in this thread). I'm really not sure what more you want us to do to be approachable and easy to contact? (Genuine question)
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NV Access
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@ysotomayor @zersiax @jcsteh @KaraLG84 Yadiel - I am genuinely keen to find out what the problem with our training material you have found is? Please do reply or reach out at info@nvaccess.org. We've only had good feedback on how easy it is to use, so I would love to find out how Basic Training for NVDA is too technical for your users please? (I can't fix it without understanding what is wrong). Thank you very much for sharing!
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Jonathan Mosen
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@NVAccess @ysotomayor @zersiax @jcsteh @KaraLG84 For what it's worth, I truly think the training material is clearly written and informative. It's very well done.
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Sean Randall
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@NVAccess @ysotomayor @zersiax @jcsteh @KaraLG84 Seconding the very high quality of the training material. I'd regularly recommend them to my students after a lesson to reenforce the learning.
Well worth paying for.
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Kara Goldfinch
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@cachondo @NVAccess @ysotomayor @zersiax @jcsteh Thirded. I have the Word and excel modules and they're fantastic. Also not forgetting the included user guide. Years ago I think the object nav section needed work but they clearly sorted it out since.
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Jamie Pauls
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@cachondo @NVAccess @ysotomayor @zersiax @jcsteh @KaraLG84 NVDA's Excel training book is quite thorough. Honestly, users of other screen readers besides NVDA might still find their training materials useful.
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@EdenLinnea @cachondo @ysotomayor @zersiax @jcsteh @KaraLG84 @JamiePauls @jpellis2008 @jscholes

Thank you so much everyone! It's great to get positive feedback and even more heartening to know that what we do IS worthwhile to people and helping people!

Thank you again and have a great week everyone :)

@James Scholes @Jay Pellis @Jamie Teh @Florian @Sean Randall @Kara Goldfinch @Yadiel Sotomayor @Jamie Pauls @Eden Linnea
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Michael Ryan Hunsaker
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@NVAccess @ysotomayor @zersiax @jcsteh @KaraLG84 I think that argument will be used against NVDA until someone starts setting up podcasts and YouTube videos like Freedom scientific has for JAWS. These podcasts/videos are no less technical than the NVDA and the JAWS training materials are NOT user friendly in themselves, but there is the perception that they are user friendly.
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NV Access
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@amazing_mrhunsaker @ysotomayor @zersiax @jcsteh @KaraLG84 I wonder if the person suggesting the material is too technical simply wasn't aware of the training material at all, so maybe there is work we can do to better promote the fact there IS training material for people to use to learn NVDA.
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Michael Ryan Hunsaker
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@NVAccess @ysotomayor @zersiax @jcsteh @KaraLG84 perhaps. I never had trouble finding it. I just think a lot of opinion about ease/difficulty of JAWS and NVDA has more to say about the person speaking than the materials themselves. My colleagues tell me NVDA is hard to use—but they base that on their assumption of JAWS as the “gold standard”. It takes a LOT of work for them to see that NVDA is not only valid but better for certain tasks
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Naeem_1986
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@NVAccess @ysotomayor @zersiax @jcsteh @KaraLG84 Hi, I find the NVDA training material very accessible and easy to use. This bearing in mind that I do not consider myself an advanced computer user. thank you very much @NVAccess for this wonderful software. Keep up the excellent job.
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NV Access
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@Naeem_1986 @ysotomayor @zersiax @jcsteh @KaraLG84 Thank you so much! We endeavoured to make the training material easy to use for anyone, including those who aren't advanced computer users. Thank you for your kind words!
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MostlyBlindGamer
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@NVAccess @zersiax @jcsteh @KaraLG84 wow, what a huge thread this has turned into.

The cool new trend in open source software is private Discord servers. GitHub is public and searchable - you can even add a thumbs up to an issue.

As a developer, I prefer to get bugs handled by a customer service team and feature requests handled by the sales and product teams. I would very much like to not ask my users any questions.

That just goes to show 1. GitHub isn’t ideal for anybody and 2. other systems have their own problems, not the least of which are accessibility and the impact of layers between users and developers.

For what it’s worth, I know I could call NV Access for support at a pretty reasonable rate. If somebody has a problem and talks about it on here, another user may take the initiative and replicate and report it. There are also mailing lists.

We can, at the same time, recognize that there are constraints that make GitHub the least bad option for NV Access, from a customer support side, and that it’s neither an insurmountable obstacle nor the only option to get support.

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Svenja
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@zersiax I agree to that. I am a Dev myself but rarely fill Issues on github because i am to worried to do things wrong. Once I tried filling an Issue the Project emediately closed it without a good Explanation, just throwing Keywords at me. @NVAccess @FreakyFwoof @twynn
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NV Access
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@svenja NVDA? Or another project? If you can give me a link, a number, your GitHub username or anything I can use to find your issue, I'd be happy to have a look and work out what may have happened?
@Svenja
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Svenja
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@NVAccess its another Project, don't worry, I just wanted to say its not that easy. If you are interested I can send you the Link nevertheless :-)
@NV Access
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NV Access
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@svenja Ah no problem. You may get grumbled at for an NVDA issue which doesn't follow the template, but usually a genuine issue will be accepted and the issue wording will be fixed up if needed.
@Svenja

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i'm tempted to buy one and fill it up with art and weird stuff and set it up in my living room and encourage guests to take a few and play it up like it's a magic capsule machine that periodically refills itself with new and exciting mysteries
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aeva
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dumb conceptual art idea

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Outside stream is very boomy today. 2.onj.me/outside.m3u
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Andre Louis
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@vick21 You'd still have to charge them up on the regular, so they'd die at random times. Personally wouldn't bother. These are Behringer XM8500 dynamics connected to a Raspberry Pi.
@victor tsaran
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victor tsaran
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I guess, my issue is that I cannot make these mics stationary at the moment, so would love an opportunity to remove / install them at will.

#AndroidAppRain at apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid today brought you 16 updated apps, but also 2 apps were removed:

* DiviDoc contains a self-updater, and its author did not respond to our issue
* URL to PDF was rebranded to WebCapture more than a month ago, so the "old" app was removed

Further, several more apps could be confirmed as #reproducibleBuilds – bringing their total number here up to 315 (or relative: 26.2%).

Enjoy your #free #Android #apps with the #IzzyOnDroid repo :awesome:


IzzyOnDroid F-Droid Repository

This is a repository of apps to be used with your F-Droid client. Applications in this repository are official binaries built by the original application developers, taken from their resp. repositories (mostly Github, GitLab, Codeberg).
IzzyOnDroid App Repo
#android #free #apps #AndroidAppRain #reproduciblebuilds #izzyondroid
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Caleb Maclennan
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Re DiviDoc ... You commented on an old closed issue instead of opening a new dedicated one:

github.com/Armand31/Dividoc/is…

Whether or not the author cares I can't say but for most projects that is a good way to go unaddressed. Also for the sake of every other potential user checking out known issues...


Add automatic update · Issue #9 · Armand31/Dividoc

An Android app designed to assist the documentation of dead bodies in war, disaster and migration areas - Add automatic update · Issue #9 · Armand31/Dividoc
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in reply to Caleb Maclennan

IzzyOnDroid ✅
IzzyOnDroid ✅
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@alerque Yes, I commented on the issue that introduced this, Caleb. And I've pinged the author explicitly, twice even. Apart from that, the project has not seen any commit since 2/2023, and Armand seems "gone" since June. So chances of this being addressed are rather low to non-existent.

Should it be addressed later, the app can easily be re-established, metadata have been archived and not deleted.

@Caleb Maclennan

For many the Internet is Google. But Google profits massively from the data you share. The time has come to stop this unlimited data mining. That's why we are building Tuta. We do not track, log or share your information. And the best: No Ads.🥰🥰🥰
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peace
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you are right . But , unfortunately Big G has a lot of bots inside phones. Google hss stored anything about us . Only mode is a rooted device. Congratulations for last update on Tuta. Mail and Calendar.
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Strypey
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(1/?)

@Tutanota
> That's why we are building Tuta. We do not track, log or share your information. And the best: No Ads

Great stuff. Will you be implementing AutoCrypt, so people using Tuta can send encrypted email to people using other email services and apps, which also support the standard?

github.com/tutao/tutanota/issu…

Having to use Tuta's clients to access Tuta mail is pretty much the only thing that's been holding me back from using the service.

@Decentralize


Autocrypt support · Issue #198 · tutao/tutanota

Hi there, is Tutanota planning to follow the path of other mail clients and implement Autocrypt? Seems like most major clients are planning on releasing support for it soon (K9, Thunderbird, Mailpi...
GitHub
@Tuta @The Privacy Advocate (dt.gl)

What does one do with a new cotton t-shirt that has a big rectangle of vinyl print on the front... making it unwearable? Straight up cut it into rags?
in reply to Federico Mena Quintero

Nuktal
Nuktal
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A) Is vinyl print solid color?
B) Does it have text/images on it?

If "A", take a Pilot marker and handwrite something funny.
If "B", yeah, cut it into rags.

in reply to Federico Mena Quintero

hpj
hpj
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Wash it once or twice. Or just put on that concert t-shirt from 1997 with the print still intact.

Exceptionally frustrated

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Sean Randall
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Spotted on an evening walk on an isolated beach in Aotearoa #NewZealand

A small human (5?) holding up a kite so her older brother can get it in the air. She's an expert holder, picking it up every time it falls on the sand. The patience and optimism that it'll fly eventually seems infinite.

A man (30s?) with a thoughtful aspect pushing a wheelbarrow down to the water line. He's got all the gear for a perfect few hours fishing. A while later he's spotted in a deck chair next to a low table with a picnic on it while waiting for a catch.

A small group of young humans directed by a man (40s?) in setting up a sand-drawn rugby pitch. He's wearing a bucket hat and has the air of a dad on a mighty mission. Within minutes he has teams sorted and is running up and down the sand umpiring. This is serious business

Two grey haired naturists walking along the treeline on a quiet patch of the beach. From a distance they look like two tranquil, rather pink wild creatures happily holding hands as one of them points out different cloud formations crossing the skyline.

A couple of women (20s?) smooching while standing in ankle deep water. They pause to take a selfie and then one abruptly stoops and splashes the other. Shrieking, chasing and more smooching to follow.

Any typos spotted in this post are lost after being locked in overnight after the sunset gates were closed at this beach. If spotted give them a drink of water and a ride to the nearest town. They will appreciate breakfast.

You're looking at a spectacular flat yellow/brown sand beach at almost full low tide. There's a massive expanse of sand in the foreground that feels quite coarse underfoot. To the left you can see a treeline of pine trees going into the distance. To the right is blue water and overhead is a stunning late spring evening blue sky with the odd fluffy picturesque cloud. In the far distance is a mountain range because this is New Zealand and those suckers sneak up on you.
#newzealand

Hey #openstreetmap people, i need your help again.
I'm using Overpass Turbo for the first time and struggling with a query that should be simple.
I've checked various help files but can't find anything.
I just want to show roads that have no speed limit. (So i know to go and fix that).

Something like:
nwr["highway"]["maxspeed"=null]

#openstreetmap
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Joost Schouppe
Joost Schouppe
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thus should do the trick as well openstreetmap.org/user/Branko%…

Maxspeed freshness tool

tl;dr I created Maxspeed freshness tool where you can see if tag exists, and if it does - how old it is!
OpenStreetMap
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Simon Hobeck
Simon Hobeck
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@joost_schouppe thanks, this is useful and essentially what I was looking for with Overpass.
I currently prefer MapComplete simply because I can quickly fix any missing values rather than jump between browser tabs.
Once I've completed the gaps, maybe then I can review older inputs.
@Joost Schouppe

To je ale bumbrlíček…

#gentoo

>>> Running pre-merge checks for dev-qt/qtwebengine-6.7.3 * Checking for at least 40 GiB RAM ... * Checking for at least 8 GiB disk space at "/var/tmp/portage/dev-qt/qtwebengine-6.7.3/temp" ... * Checking for at least 360 MiB disk space at "/usr" ...
#gentoo
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mahdi
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taky mam vzdycky "radost", kdyz vidim update tohohle molochu. Bohuzel mam jednu appku, kde to nejde vypnout a zatim sem byl linej ten -9999 ebuild poradne prozkoumat, jestli bych to nevypl nebo je to nak vic zadratovany. Naivne sem si myslel (tak pred pul rokem), ze zkusim prepnout par balicku na binarni, ale ono to nejde (zatim?) uplne mixovat. Jen pokud existuje -bin alternativa separe, i u LO sem musel prejit na kompilaci, protoze -bin je zoufale stara a dle bugzilly to moc nevypada.
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Marián Kyral
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@mahdi No je to na …

Firefox 30 minut, libreoffice cca 1 hodina, qtwebengine 2 hodiny 🤷‍♂️

@mahdi
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Jiří Pavlík
Jiří Pavlík
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@Marián Kyral @mahdi Já mám Firefox a Thunderbird binární, protože tam jsou updaty hodně časté, Libreoffice kompiluju na svých třech strojích pod hodinu (jsou to děla), na čas Qtwebengine se mi nechce vzpomínat.

Zkoušel jsem binpkg gcc, protože mi chvíli zlobila jeho kompilace, ale jinak té binpkg větvi Gentoo rozumím tak, že je spíš pro případ, kdy člověk spravuje síť a nechce kompilovat na každém PC.

@Marián Kyral @mahdi
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Marián Kyral
Marián Kyral
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@jiri @mahdi

Ta binární větev je pro všechny, kdo využívají nejčastější kombinaci USE flagů. Pokud člověk moc nedivočí, tak se použije binární balík. Jinak se kompiluje.

Bohužel čím větší balík, tím více USE flagů a tím větší šance, že se bude muset kompilovat. Nebylo by špatné, mít nějaký nástroj, který by mi řekl, kterými USE flagy se liším.

@Jiří Pavlík @mahdi
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Jiří Pavlík
Jiří Pavlík
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@Marián Kyral @mahdi Je to teda tak, že se portage sám rozhodne, že bude ignorovat option --getbinpkg nebo podobnou?
@Marián Kyral @mahdi
in reply to Marián Kyral

mahdi
mahdi
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byvalo i hur :) kdyz sem s gentoo zacinal, tak muj 6kg notas s P4 daval OO.org ~24h :-P (nastesti pomerne rychle byl pak i binarni) ... btw firefox ma udrzovanej www-client/firefox-bin (esr i nejnovejsi), takze tady du cestou nejmensiho odporu.
in reply to mahdi

Marián Kyral
Marián Kyral
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@mahdi Ten FF mě vůbec netrápí. Ani LO. Zato Chromium byl jiný příběh. Tam bin balíček byl, ale zrušili ho, kompilovat to nechci, tak jsem skončil u FlatPacku. Občas v něm potřebuji něco otestovat a na to mi flatpack stačí.
@mahdi
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mahdi
mahdi
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taky pouziju Chromium zridka, jen kdyz chci neco otestovat, existuje github.com/PF4Public/gentoo-ov… odkud beru

gentoo-overlay/www-client at master · PF4Public/gentoo-overlay

Personal Gentoo overlay. Contribute to PF4Public/gentoo-overlay development by creating an account on GitHub.
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Miroslav Suchý
Miroslav Suchý
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@mahdi 😀😀😀 to jsou pro mě zprávy z jiného vesmíru. Se divim, že vás to baví.😀😀
@mahdi

Fairphone 4 and sensors

Full post here. rene.seindal.dk/2024/11/03/fai…

I bought a Fairphone 4 as a part of my project of de-googling my life.

Playing with different operating systems, I somehow ended up with a phone where most of the sensors didn't work, even if they did when I got the phone.

#EOS #DeGoogling #FairPhone4 #FP4 #MurenaOS #UbuntuTouch


Fairphone 4 and sensors

A Fairphone4, which has had UBports installed, doesn’t show most sensors to a later installation of Android.
René Seindal (René's old blog)
#UbuntuTouch #eos #murenaos #Fairphone4 #fp4 #degoogling

What's the rule about changing the clocks? Spring forward, fall into a pit of despair?

Listening to @FreakyFwoof latest episode and this gets me thinking about interdependence care. Ever since I was young, it was stressed to me, even to the degree of harm because I developed unhealthy pride and got into some very unsafe situations because my pride lead me to creating a toxic environment of internalized ableism for myself, that independence was the only way to go, but blind people when I was growing up did not want me to practice interdependence care. I was to be fully independent, at all times. I was never to ask for help, from anybody, and while I don't want to explain all the lonely situations that put me in, I'd like to illustrate how interdependence care can be beneficial.

I was at a disabled persons house the other day with a group of disabled people. They knew carrying things was going to be problematic for me, with my cane, and the plate stacked with food, so they asked me if they could carry the food while I helped someone else pour a drink they asked assistance for and couldn't physically do. I said yes, and soon, we all were helping each other out and no agency was removed from anybody. Interdependence care looks different from the traditional care model because agency isn't taken away from anybody. It allows us to get to know each other and our bodies, which is a very intimate space. But by allowing other people into that very intimate space, a whole new kind of person centric care can emerge. It allows me to utilize words without qualifiers because when I speak of spoons, these loved ones instantly know where I'm coming from because we all practiced interdependence care, which is a type of love that I haven't seen much. There's only care, and no judgment, and it's far less lonely than being independent.

#Care #Disability

#Disability #CARE @Andre Louis

Once Linux’s Biggest Enemy: Darl McBride Dies and Nobody Notices lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_l…

Once Linux's Biggest Enemy: Darl McBride Dies and Nobody Notices - FOSS Force

The man who attempted to sue Linux out of existence died a month and a half ago with little notice by the Linux and open source communities.
Christine Hall (FOSS Force)

Voy a relatar extensamente mi experiencia personal de la #dana viviendo en Picanya, pueblo que está separado de Paiporta por el maldito barranco:

Dia 1: A las 19h nos quedamos sin luz, agua y gas. Metro y medio de agua en la calle. Avisan de que no salgamos de casa, ¡a las 20:15! (Una hora después) Damos por perdidos los coches del garaje. Nos salvamos porque vivmos en el primer piso. No dormimos.

Dia 2: Salimos y vamos a ver la casa de mis suegros como podemos, esquivando coches amontonados. Tienen el garaje inundado y sin puerta. Nos dirigimos al centro del pueblo a preguntar si nos pueden cargar el movil para estar informados y en pleno paseo suena la alarma. Pavor entre los vecinos, parece ser que han soltado una presa para que no se rompa y viene otra ola. Al final nada, pero nos hemos tenido qie volver a casa corriendo. Finalmente pasamos la tarde (limpiando) y noche en casa de mis suegros porque estan saqueando casas y no tienen puerta.

Dia 3: Pasan muchos helicópteros pero nadie a pie. Nos pasamos la mañana limpiando. Consigo cargar el móvil utilizando el portátil del trabajo que tenía batería. No tenemos casi comida, así que me dirijo al punto donde todo el mundo viene con bolsas de compra. Resulta que es el mercadona, está la puerta forzada y todos cogen lo que quieren. Cojo estrictamente lo que necesitamos y vuelvo a casa. A mediodía el garaje sigue casi igual y la rampa medio despejada. Los vecinos nos miramos las caras con desesperación. Llega un grupo de chavales y nos ofrecen ayuda pero les decimos que ayuden al lado por que son mayores.

Dia 4: Empiezan a llegar decenas de personas a ayudar. Es el día que más avanzamos, dejando el garaje prácticamente vacío con solo algo de barro. En todo el día no ha aparecido ni un militar. Vuelve la luz a casa de mis suegros y podemos ducharnos por primera vez. En mi casa no hay luz ni gas, el garaje sigue inundado.

Día 5: Llegan los militares y oh... ya no los necesitamos...

#dana

ty vole už je november

Sunset above Pico de Orizaba

Canon EOS RT6

#SilentSunday #photography #photo #photographie #naturephotography #light

Pico de Orizaba from above
#photo #photography #Light #naturephotography #SilentSunday #photographie


in reply to Stephanie Appleby

Sean Randall
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sounds like a headset mic to my untrained ear, but successful test, if without any description on the audio. :)
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Stephanie Appleby
Stephanie Appleby
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@cachondo Yeah it's a USB headset microphone that actually works! Yeah no description on it! If I tried longer voice messages and since I'm using the startrek soundpack it says: "Unable to comply!" and it drives me absolutely bonkers!
@Sean Randall

Well I can't say I've ever seen a Vroom error before.

'{"error":{"code":"unauthenticated","message":"Exception of type 'Microsoft.Vroom.Exceptions.UnauthenticatedVroomException' was thrown."}}'

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James Scholes
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The first result for Microsoft Vroom has this to say: "This protocol enables a protocol client to send an HTTPS request to a protocol server using common web technologies to access data and perform operations." I trust that has sufficiently cleared up the matter?
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Andre Louis
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@jscholes I asked Google gemma 2 what it thinks it is, and got this. Whether it's true or not is a different matter. Though it sounds vaguely plausible I have my doubts.

Microsoft VROOM (Virtual Reality Optimization and Orchestration Manager) is an open-source tool designed to simplify the deployment and management of virtual reality (VR) experiences on Azure cloud infrastructure.

It automates tasks like provisioning VMs, configuring VR software, and managing user access. VROOM aims to reduce the complexity and cost associated with building and running VR applications in the cloud.

@James Scholes
in reply to Andre Louis

Sean Randall
Sean Randall
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@jscholes there's also VROOM (Virtual Robot Overlay for Online Meetings) is an experimental system for exploring the social experience of robotic telepresence ...
@James Scholes

The world has turned into avoiding scams and trying to make shit work all the damn time. I just want something to go right. Somewhere where I'm not worrying about accessability or being taken advantage of, or having to do my due diligence about every god damn job I apply for. I'm so discouraged. I really don't want to do any of this anymore.

They say that being taken for a ride and being refused over and over gets easier. It doesn't. You just get numb to it after a while and you wonder what the damn point is.

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Simon Jaeger (Procrastodon)
Simon Jaeger (Procrastodon)
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I assume they're kidding themselves. I can't get behind the attitude that blindness sucks 100% of the time"and everything sucks, but I'd never tell anyone it gets easier. Maybe when it's one thing again and again, like dog refusals, you get used to dealing with it and have a plan in place, but even then, it's still stressful and hard to deal with.
in reply to Simon Jaeger (Procrastodon)

James Scholes
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The three habits of highly successful blind people: be born in the right country, marry a sighted person, and do nothing.
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Tristan
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@jscholes @simon It's understated how true this is. So many blind people outright dismiss each other by saying "Well, there's this work-around for [task that should be a 30 second ordeal], surely we have more things to worry about!" As someone that struggles with diagnosed ADHD that already makes it hard to do things, blindness cuts my energy in half on most days. The cumulative blind tax, comprised of all of the micro-inaccessibilities of life, adds up after a while.
@James Scholes @Simon Jaeger (Procrastodon)
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Tristan
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@jscholes @simon The harsh reality: blindness *is* a barrier, and the world literally isn't built for you. It doesn't ruin everything, but it is something that is part of the calculus that goes into whether an activity in life is doable or enjoyable. Pretending that it isn't is just fooling yourself and setting a bad example for those that might look up to you. (I should really find an instance with better character limits.)
@James Scholes @Simon Jaeger (Procrastodon)
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Winter blue tardis🇧🇬🇭🇺
Winter blue tardis🇧🇬🇭🇺
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Sadly, that's true, and I agree. Also, I went over my crazy anxieties today to ask for help. Lot of the blind people wouldn't be happy. But I met an awesome student and we shared a meal soo. There are nice people, after all. Because of quote try to always be independent quote thing, a lot of people think it's good to look down on others who don't mind help. Also, inaccessibility is way too real. None of us should struggle alone. Letting ourselves be helped isn't a crime, sharing isn't a crime. And if a phone call is easy for person A, it's an absolute anxiety attack cause for person B. We are different, and the sad reality is that what works for one, doesn't work for all. Your 3 second task can turn into a 30 minute task for someone else. And no one should be made to feel bad about it. People should be encouraged for trying, not stepped on because they are struggling. Also, the world is broken for real. And not only from the Reddit posts, but I have seen it live and yeah. The world is the shit that hit the fan right now. Also, to all humans who struggle with ADHD and autism, or anything really, good luck, may you get more energy, and my double thumbs up for not giving up. Because I know the other end of things when people have given up and it's grim. Soo, keep on fighting, and lots of patience. And it's totally alright to feel tired and vent it out.
in reply to James Scholes

Eden Linnea
Eden Linnea
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@jscholes @cachondo @simon Heally. That's downright awful and negative. I have a sightedperson and yes, I was born in America. But I am a court reporter who busted her butt to get where she is. I have also traveled over the country by myself, lived on my own since I was 16 so I would not get beat anymorwh. So that do nothing part just ticks me off honestly.
@James Scholes @Sean Randall @Simon Jaeger (Procrastodon)
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Winter blue tardis🇧🇬🇭🇺
Winter blue tardis🇧🇬🇭🇺
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I don't want to be evil, but I believe 0% of what you just said. Just by. The writing. Also, different people, different lives, different cultures, different struggles. Just saying. I have difficulty, really, reading what you wrote. And I hope the comment I am about to send won't be rude. Because I really struggled, and I still do not make sense of what you wrote.
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Sean Randall
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@EdenLinnea I didn't take @jscholes comment to be against those who work for a living. The do nothing part to me said that there are people who are lucky enough to be born into a country that will support them financially, meet a sighted person to do all the things they can't or won't learn to adapt their way around, and then don't work or even attempt to.

Just my interpretation

@James Scholes @Eden Linnea
in reply to Sean Randall

Eden Linnea
Eden Linnea
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@cachondo @jscholes I was led to understand might have been sarcasm involved. Unfortunately, that doesn't always come through intexts. AllI saw was really the one comment and I" just stunned that someone would say that a blind person successful would be those three things. I was not raised around many blind people, so I think my stances can sometimes be harcore. I had to be tough and beearned to be from an early age. I know not everyone's experience is mine. I have a hardheadedness a lot of people don't have and have often used that to get where I needed to be. Sometimes my bluntness doesn't make me a lot of friends, but x'sn intentional.
@James Scholes @Sean Randall
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Sean Randall
Sean Randall
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@EdenLinnea @jscholes It's a bit of a stereotype, perhaps, but I know a lot of working-age blind people here in the UK who live off the benefits system. They've told the government they are incapable of work, which means they receive money each month without having to do anything for it.

Now I'm not against disability money or anything, but just as an example, one person I know is receiving roughly £26,000 a year in state benefits. I know that this person hasn't got the best qualifications or experience, but equally if they can spend all day cultivating followers on twitch, it's wrong, in my mind, to then claim they can't use technology to look for work or improve themselves.
That 26k is more than a sighted adult can earn on a full-time job at minimum wage, by the way, just as a point of comparison.

Conversely, I know people who have such complex medical needs that there's no chance they should ever be forced to re-train or look for work. They are truly and indisputably disabled to the point where we should, as a society, provide for them.

I guess the problem is some people might think that about young blind people with nothing else wrong with them. Until you've lived it, you can't always see the possibilities.

@James Scholes @Eden Linnea
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James Scholes
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@cachondo I'm less concerned about the morality of capable blind people claiming benefits. I'm far more dismayed at the number of people refused government assistance who truly, very evidently cannot work, the gaps in or complete lack of employment history those blind people will have to present if they decide to apply for a position they actually want one day, and the possibility of the government assistance being withdrawn at any time leaving them with nothing.

Those last two certainly gave me a lot of anxiety before I found work, although some people don't seem concerned or aware. Either that, or they're putting on a show of not being worried about it. The more benefits you save for a rainy day, the less you get given. @EdenLinnea

@Sean Randall @Eden Linnea
in reply to James Scholes

Sean Randall
Sean Randall
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@jscholes @EdenLinnea I don't know if they just aren't aware or just accept it under a sort of fatalistic, this is what I have now and i'll make the most of it sort of ideology.

All the time i was looking for work I was constantly stressed that I'd lose the benefits I did have. Nobody was interested in me proving I was looking for work, which begged the question as to why I got the benefits in the first place.

@James Scholes @Eden Linnea
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The Blind AI
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@cachondo @EdenLinnea @jscholes You do know it’s 90% of work engaged blind people are unemployed? I don’t think they all told the government they were incapable. Maybe the government told them?
@James Scholes @Sean Randall @Eden Linnea
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Sean Randall
Sean Randall
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@Lottie @EdenLinnea @jscholes I know in theory those are the stats.
I also know just how many of my peer group of blind but otherwise able-bodied adults have gotten themselves in the 'I can't work mindset, and that's sad
@James Scholes @Eden Linnea @The Blind AI
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The Blind AI
The Blind AI
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@cachondo @EdenLinnea @jscholes I honestly think those people have decided they can’t get a job not that they can’t do a job. No matter how hard it is for people to work it’s harder for blind people to get work that’s the truth. I do think learn helplessness is playing a large part of this.
@James Scholes @Sean Randall @Eden Linnea
in reply to James Scholes

Fanny Bui
Fanny Bui
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@jscholes @simon can definitely not agree. Look at the social media of the Kantari institute. Yo'll find a lot of exemples prooving you wrong.
@James Scholes @Simon Jaeger (Procrastodon)
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Estelle
Estelle
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@Brailly615 @jscholes @simon A lot of examples of blind people who don't have any of these 3 things?

1. i think this was sarcasm, so I primarily think people are taking this comment too seriously.

2. The people who don't fit these steriotypes are few and far between. Privilege plays a massive role in how much access people have, and the reality is that people who don't have these privileges (because that's what they are) struggle vastly more than people who do.

3. I looked up the institute you mentioned, and - unless there are 2 institutes by the same name - this isn't even exclusively for blind/VI people, so finding the examples you speak of would be like looking for a needle in a haystack.

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I really love the "look at social media of this and that." No, that is an unreal example. I can tell you that much. I have been in some social media boost the school's reputation around here, and it's all made up. Honestly, it saddens me when even blind people fall for that when we see the actual reality. Looking at the surface is not what makes the world tick. the surface is deceiving. The depths are the real deal. I am glad that I personally know what it means to live and not live with priveleges, to work and not to work, and to fight and not to. and trust me, the surface is simple, for me. But it's deep down that matters. and that matters for all. Because life isn't a fairytale of made up social media posts.
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Fanny Bui
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@tardis @jscholes @simon No! what I'm talking about is real. I only recommended to visit the social media accounts of Kantari, because it's not so easy just to get to Trivandrum, Nepal, Hungaria, Kenia, Uganda or whereever. In the Kantari institute people from all over the world, especially from "not right" places, can apply for a course for social change makers. And many of the applicants are blind for the founder is blind herself. I personally know blind people from Uganda, from india, from Nepal, and i definitely know from one in Simbabwe, one in Gambia... They all applied for this Course by themselves and now run social Changing projects. I don't know the private situation of all of them, but I know for sure, that far not all of them have sighted partners. On the other hand I'm one of those born in one of the right Countries, and I know lots of blind folks here who are far away from such successes — I'd even include myself. I have a sighted partner, I'm lucky to have a good job. But I'm far not as successful as those people I told you about. In my opinion one of the very Important things for success in life, not only for Blind is, if you could keep your prilemal trust and get self confidence as a child. If this is the case, courrage, resilience, and social competence can be developed and a trustful basic attitude to life and the own abilities. No Question: being born in the right Country and having a sighted partner makes life a lot more easy and comfortable. But it's neither a nessecity, nor a guaranty for success in life!
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It's not that simple. also, it's Hungary, and also, don't forget we all process information differently. this might've worked for you, or the people you mentioned, but it won't work for everyone. Life screws us enough that we don't have an equal chance. You've had luck, not many of us have had that luck, environment, family, etc. We don't choose it. so, we can be supportive of each other and try to have understanding towards each other, rather than saying, do this and do that. Because I know someone from your country who thinks absolutely the same, dismisses people's issues with a wave, until they understood that these issues can pile up on them too. and then, it kind of becomes hard when you're not prepared to deal with them. Nobody chooses their parents, their family, their environment or the way they learn, process information, or perceive the world. What we can do the best, though, is show support. Because I used to think the same way you do, except I was not born in a lucky family, or the right country. But with change, discovery and knowledge, come different experiences and views. I am glad it worked out for you, but please show some understanding and consideration for those who did not have the same luck as you. There are options, we just have to sometimes wander through all the obstacles to find them. But I believe it'll be better, eventually, and these days of frustration, tiredness, and sometimes, even hopelessness will be worth it when one looks back at them as a memory. Still, living in the present is the way that's most optimal. In any case, the conclusion is, that we each grew up with different circumstances which we could not choose. Being entitled, arrogant, prideful... that won't help, one can just as easily be all of these one day, and the next have nothing. So seeing things with an open mind, and a shoulder of support is really the better option, even when there aren't other options, people must remember that there'll be support. At times, support is the only thing that keeps us going.
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@simon It's not just the blind, though, is it?
half the posts on one of the big UK subreddits are now anxiety posts. Young people who've never caught a bus, mailed a letter, filled a proscription, paid a bill. Literally, paid a bill. A bill comes with an amount and about a dozen ways to pay in black and white and rather than sit and read it, they turn to the net because they're anxious about what to do next.

The world has gone utterly off the rails.

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wait huh? I mean you're definitely right. anxiety is skyrocketing and a lot! of folks need a kick up the fundament. But I do think we're on another level in terms of the battles we end up fighting, and anxiety maybe is somewhat natural in such circumstances?
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@bermudianbrit @simon oh yes, I won't argue that much of the crap we get saddled with as blind folk is a level above. But I just wanted to point out that there are people in their late teens who, when they get a perfectly simple thing they were expecting (i.e. a bill), call it trauma or anxiety inducing and turn to the web for 'Advice'.

Nella Rose is a 27 year old youtuber/influencer and made a conscious choice to go onto a TV gameshow last year, which had been airing for over 20 years before this, and spoke direct to camera about how surprised she was at having to participate in the 'traumatising' events.
I just can't fathom the mindsets of some of these people, yet there's sometimes more accommodations for them than for genuine barriers thrown up due to disability.

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@cachondo @simon yep. This is something I do agree with. Its a difficult ballencing act sometimes I think, not to be resentful of shit like that or the people who perpetuate it. complicated issues. Where does mental health end and just fucking get on with it begin? not simple.
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@bermudianbrit @simon the problem is, as soon as you trot out the 'just fuckin' get on with it' concept, we're told that the trauma was always there and people just talk about it more now, so stop being such an asshole.
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@bermudianbrit @simon and that's hard. I know people, trans people in the main, who feel that only now is it safe to express how they've always felt. And I'm incredibly aware of how liberating that is for them.
I narrowly avoided being sent to an 'institute for the enfeebled' rather than plain old 'school' at the start of the 1990's. I was that close to being labeled mentally unfit for public society. I still got called retarded and many other vulgar terms people wouldn't feel it appropriate to use today.

I'm out of education now, but some of the things we weren't allowed to discuss, or even make our youth think about in the last few years of being a teacher is incredible.

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@cachondo @simon elaborate? on things you're not allowed to discuss as a teacher? And do you think that fuels anxiety because then you're faced with them as an adult?
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@bermudianbrit @simon I think so.
We got told not to speak to a particular student while they were walking the corridors once, because of the distraction factor. Not to reduce what we said, or avoid long encounters or limit it to the essentials, literally stop completely.

Then one year a student hadn't been accepted into the guide dog programme, so there was a blanket ban on mentioning dogs in range of them hearing, including in their shared classes.

Little things like that, it all added up to a wrapping in cotton wool attitude that never sat well with me.

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@cachondo @bermudianbrit @simon I'm looking for work and really fucking struggling. But I have never asked my partner not to talk about jobs, never asked an employed person who is also job-seeking to please be quiet. My shit is *my* shit.
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@bermudianbrit @simon shared shit is the shit, no shit.
A problem shared, and all that. I'd never suggest not talking about it.
But to imply you can rewrite the world to erase these issues is an absolute disservice to anyone suffering anything, I think.
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Congrats on getting it booting on the Pi 4! Looking forward to more updates on that.

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