It's not GNOME, it's not KDE, it's not the new Vanilla OS DE, it's new, uses <100M of memory, is accessible (for real) and uses GTK4 (but not libadwaita).
What’s the motivation for the project? It looks pretty cool, but historically your work has had a specific reason to be developed. Bottles to improve the Wine experience on Windows, Bottles Next to fix the architecture of Bottles and improve its UX (also, any news on Next?), cpak for a portable and sandboxed package format… so I’m curious as to the perceived issue that led to this project being born!
@moshimotsu I was just tired of bloated desktops, I wanted something modern that stays under 200MB. It’s built natively for Wayland using labwc under the hood to avoid reinventing the wheel, with no plans for Xorg support. I love the GNOME workflow but I’m fed up with the libadwaita-only direction and the feeling that any modification is an impurity. This is also a good playground, where I can do anything without being forced into someone else's design guidelines.
@TheEvilSkeleton @moshimotsu the issue is not the shell but the direction of the GNOME Apps which are part of the Environment. Plus the issue I have with GNOME OS `just existing*`, but that is up to me. I have to write a blog to really explain this last one 🤗
I'm not sure what you mean by GNOME OS "just existing", especially considering I use GNOME OS on my tablet and desktop nowadays and see plenty of reasons why it should exist (laptop is on Silverblue, but I plan to switch to GNOME OS some day)
I guess I'll wait to hear your detailed take on GNOME OS once you write the blog post ;). I've had a lot of issues with Vanilla OS with how outdated GNOME is, but also the unclear direction with how containers are pushed and the tooling around them, which were some of the reasons why I went straight to GNOME OS from Silverblue
@TheEvilSkeleton Maybe @mirkobrombin and I are misattributing GNOME’s vision for its ecosystem to its vision for the shell.
Naturally the shell can’t be going LibAdwaita-only, as (looking from the outside in) I would figure many shell elements, like widgets/the dock/etc, are just using GTK4—not to mention non-LibAdwaita apps still run on it. The ecosystem is what seems to be going LibAdwaita-only, both in GNOME shell, and elsewhere. I figure?
there is no backups for arcanechat.me no user data is kept in backups not even if it is already encrypted data, if the server is wipped all data is gone, but here is the twist, you will barely notice! your account will be magically restored as soon as you connect, and all your data is safely stored in your devices, in your pockets, not in some cloud a.k.a "someone else's computer"
as a #chatmail relay operator this gives peace of mind you don't get with other selfhosted chat solutions
If you develop for #linux please make offline installation possible, for people in countries with restricted internet. Came back home last night and today I want to install Luminance HDR but their only option for linux is via the terminal, and yet, while I can access full internet on my phone using a VPN, I can't access any on my laptop/workstations, so I can't install this program, unless I use Wine. I'm in #Uganda They cut off internet during elections and it has now been partially restored.
I bet a lot of my programmer friends are going, "why didn't you just use JSON and serialize settings that way?" Y'all, I did consider good ol JSON, because yes, it does have a faster compute time, but before the phoneme editor and NVDA driver settings, JSON would have been a lot less human-readable. YAML does suck for indents, I agree, but so does Python, if you are thinking on those lines, and good code indenting is honestly just good code hygiene if you think about it, why not keep that alive. I read them on a Braille display a lot, I recognize not all people do, but poorly indented code in Braille VS well-indented is the difference from knowing quickly where functions begin VS trudging code as though it were a thick foggy swamp. And I don't like that feelin'.
I am currently using Airpods Pro 2 as hearing aids, with everything cranked as much as it can be cranked. It's probably not the best thing for my particular condition, but it works, mostly, until I can do something better, which is not now.
I have a clock in this room, which chimes every hour through a speaker.
Something about that sound freaks them out a little, and, when I also have screen reader speech or something else going at the same time, I get an almost ghost vocoder effect, where certain frequencies get modulated by the chiming clock.
It makes it almost sound like the clock is speaking, or ghost aspects of it are, anyway.
Out of curiosity, did you input your own audiogram values or did you just let the hearing test do its thing? I don't like that you can't manually adjust them, but the fact that you can enter your own is pretty neat.
I bet a lot of my programmer friends are going, "why didn't you just use JSON and serialize settings that way?" Y'all, I did consider good ol JSON, because yes, it does have a faster compute time, but before the phoneme editor and NVDA driver settings, JSON would have been a lot less human-readable. YAML does suck for indents, I agree, but so does Python, if you are thinking on those lines, and good code indenting is honestly just good code hygiene if you think about it, why not keep that alive. I read them on a Braille display a lot, I recognize not all people do, but poorly indented code in Braille VS well-indented is the difference from knowing quickly where functions begin VS trudging code as though it were a thick foggy swamp. And I don't like that feelin'.
I don't hate YAML entirely. What bugs me about it are:
* either my IDE defaults to two spaces, or that's the expected indent, because I can't use my normal tabs with it * I still don't know when to put a hyphen before something * I can't skip sections by using jump to matching symbol commands * to me, it feels more fragile and harder to lint
I'm getting used to it, because Gitlab runners, Docker Compose, and other tools demand it. But I still don't really like it. JMO.
IMHO enforced indention is bad. 1st, presentation and content must be decoupled. the web has truly proven the benefits therein. 2nd, this is ableist. Many folks need things to look a certain way for their disability, be it visual, processing, attention, what have you. Enforcing indention is harmful to those folks. 3rd, this removes choice. JSON can be indented, auto or otherwise, but YAML must be, which means no choice. Tech should work for us, not the other way around.
@sinabahram lol, that's why I said that I recognize not all people do. Besides, people can just use speech indentations / tones if they can't read Braille, so I don't consider indentation ablist at all that way. I've gotten used to writing enough Python that by this point in my life, I'm sowely in the "always indent" camp.
@sinabahram but I will say: I do see where it could be seen as ablist, in the sense that someone might not have pitch perception, nor Braille, then what? But that's where I think we just need more alternatives for indicating that, haptics, ETC. Would be cool to see an IDE where it did use certain haptic bumps because that I think could even benefit everyone equally for quickly feeling a count of indent levels. I personally see it as a part of semantics, even for machines, because they can parse the number of indents and understand blocks of code better. Without it, chunking would become a lot harder for machines, too. So it benefits both worlds, it's just a matter of equally making it available to everyone.
I feel you're stating indention is needed. I fundamentally disagree. That is simply one way of conveying scope. Another is braces, another is fixed columns from back in the fortran days, and much more. Instead of baking inaccessibility in, let's simply not do that. Also the way it is done is itself inaccessible by enforcing spaces per Python's pep-8 instead of tabs. More importantly, nothing prevents indention being automatically added with all these other options.
also, I don't mean to be all computer sciency, but it is 100% not semantics. It is syntax being conflated with semantics, which is my objection. Syntax should be syntax and semantics should be semantics. It's not about opinions, but rather about data. No peer-reviewed programming language literature to the best of my knowledge supports indention making a statistical difference for programmers. So, in the abscence of evidence, I always choose choice.
Maybe you don't care about the EU's digital sovereignty. But let's be serious for a moment - the chance of getting rid of MS Teams does sound exciting, right?
So apparently my personal combination of social security disability, retirement savings, and “desire to own a house” makes me too complex a client for your run-of-the-mill financial advisor. Striking out with all the household name firms.
Fedi friends, especially #PDX area #disabled pals: can anyone throw me a referral here?
Honestly the easiest first place to test any new language is the SAPI wrapper, you just drop the language-specific YAML in, and boom, you can have that language show up as one of the voices. That's what's nice about it, but anon-well-tuned language (with missing phonemes and such, or a tonal one not configured with tonal settings) would still probably sound like shit. But at least, people can really experiment and try any language just by copying default.yaml and renaming it to the language's YAML name, boom, poof, then adjusting from there.
#Bitwarden premium users, please be aware that they're doing an 100% price increase for no features of any proper value. I happily paid even 20€ a year for 2 vaults, but won't do 40 for features I never use. So thanks for the push to look into selfhosting again. To clarify, the initial premium price was 10€, they're doubling for 20, adding random protection features you don't need if you have a brain. bitwarden.com/blog/bitwarden-l… reddit.com/r/Bitwarden/comment…
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I setup vaultwarden not to long ago, it wasn't bad. I just prefer chromium local passwords, but I might consider hosting that when I create a nas at some point soon. Another decision I'm thinking about what I'm going to use etc.
I'm a bit hesitant to self-host my own because all of my actual serious passwords are in there lol but I seriously might if they keep doing price increases like that
i want to not have to gaf about being successful and shit all the time. and just think. you know what. today im gonna hop on my console and just. play quake. and just be able to play it and not have to think ohhhhh shitttt man ohhh fuck i have to do a thing
Updated eurpod.com/synths/NVSpeechSapi…, V2 kept around for legacy, but this supports the new pack-level engine settings as well as updated the packs themselves.
Enjoy a little project I've been vibe coding with Claude. I call it Escape the City. I've got a lot more things to add/update/fix/unbreak. l-works.net/escape/
Damn 200K, nice. I keep wondering how far to push web agames. I love being platform agnostic, but some things like audio are a bit limiting. Still it's been so fun to plan
It probably doesn't. More about future development and being modular but for what you are doing not really necessary. I do think some LLM's work better with multiple smaller files but that is changing as context windows get better and agentic tools become more flexible.
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Ah, yeah that's what I thought. It seemed like a length thing, and maybe more combat in higher difficulties, although that may have just been random. Definitely would be interested to see what you do with this thing.
Signal head Meredith Whittaker has responded to concerns about the encrypted messaging app’s use of Amazon Web Services, saying “there isn’t really another choice.”
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Wieso wird im Rahmen der #DiDay Bewegung eigentlich ständig @signalapp empfohlen? Wo laufen denn die Server von denen? Laut Internet auch in den USA auf Amazon, Google und Co…
Oder habe ich etwas übersehen?
UPDATE: Weil mein Post offensichtlich von Fans als Kritik an Signal verstanden wird: meine Frage war, ob ich etwas übersehen habe im Sinn von „Signal Server sind nicht nur bei US-Anbietern gehostet“. Ich hätte gerne Digitale Souveränität mit Signal, nicht einem x-ten anderen System.
Meine Kritik richtet sich an diejenigen, die von digitaler Souveränität reden, und dann doch wieder etwas empfehlen, was dem Cloud Act oder der Kontrolle Trumps (Kill Switch) unterliegt.
Es braucht, will man viele Menschen erreichen, um Whatsapp zu verlassen, einen Messenger, der für Otto-Normal-User, wenig technikaffin, eine für diese Klientel einfache, kostengünstige und größtenteils sichere Alternative und die ist zur Zeit Signal!
Kein Mensch wird sich eine selbstgehostete xy-Alternative überhaupt nur ansehen oder 6 € für das aufgekaufte Threema investieren.
@HdE DeltaChat is free, offers super easy onboarding, the UI is good, it is even based on Signal client, it is decentralized, there are servers all over the world and can be selfhosted, it is super cheap to run, requires low resources
Don't worry about the few contals on the picture. Many do not want to go away from Whatsapp but the ones I can convince are more willing to change to Delta/Artanchat than to Threema. In addition, I find it as better than when my smartphone is constantly lit. Thanks also for link even if necessary.
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I've found another new thing I can't get enough of. They're pizza rolls, accept they're triangular and filled with things you'd put on nachos. meat beans cheese. They're sooooooo good!
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I mean... most everyone's got a number eventually. But I suspect they assume a lot fewer zeroes than anyone who has made that their lifelong project would accept...
Do it, gotta increase shareholder value somehow! Think about it, there's so much revenue to be made, just insert an advert into the headers of every 10th request.
I am hoping, assuming I can do it properly, to tinker with the IDL/ACF so that we can still get this functionality but allow multiple instances to be present if people need this. If people tell me not to though, then I'll keep it as is.
@Bri Heh, I wasn't sure but ultimately changed it to allow it just because all the other backends do so it seemed a bit inconsistent to disallow that for one backend. Even if backends are given a loooooot of freedom in what they can and can't do
You know, I was kind of surprised but just for the hell of it, I gave Claude Prism and went OK, implement this into a cpp project I'm working on and it just figured it out. Was kinda cool. I checked it out after it was done and yep, it did it right
I don't even think it used the docs lol. For the record, if you're curious: // Prism state #ifdef USE_PRISM static PrismContext* g_prismCtx = nullptr; static PrismBackend* g_prismBackend = nullptr; #endif
and in the init funcs: // Initialize Prism for screen reader support #ifdef USE_PRISM bool InitPrism(HWND hwnd) { PrismConfig cfg = prism_config_init(); cfg.hwnd = hwnd;
g_prismCtx = prism_init(&cfg); if (!g_prismCtx) { return false; }
g_prismBackend = prism_registry_acquire_best(g_prismCtx); if (!g_prismBackend) { return false; }
@Bri That code was almost right. You need to check if the error code is specifically PRISM_ERROR_ALREADY_INITIALIZED and ignore it; acquire/acquire_best may return an initialized one, so that shouldn't be a fatal error. Also, since it passed in the window handle, you can use the UIA backend
@Bri So... Idk what page I was viewing before but yeah, that's apparently a win 10 thing. I'm amazed you got it to build for windows 7. I can't target it so just target win 10 and move on.
@Bri Hey, it's not junk. :D And yes, it is, but apparently it loads and gets to the point of initializing backends? So libs must exist on that system already. OneCore is bypassed already (I can use ApiInformation::IsTypePresent for that). UIA I think might have a workaround, I'm looking
@Bri I mean fair. Most accessibility interfaces are lik that though: full of hacks instead of "well maybe we should build this from the ground up to be robust"
@Bri Uh... I... Think that was either MSAA or IAccessible2? Windows supports all three of them. I actually think it also supports IAccessible. So four different interfaces... No wonder it's not the best...
@Bri You have me curious now. Lmfaooo. Though the code to do it is going to be painful. I had to do a bunch of annoying shit ot get UIA to actually be safe enough for me to be comfortable with it
@Bri I had to get atomics, and then I had to get closing all the handles right which lead me to std::stop_callback (which I didn't even know existed)... So so much fun!
@Bri Has it? I could have sworn when it was new it didn't, but it might have just used direct speech controllers. NVDA and UIA weren't behaving too nicely together yet.
@Bri As for building for win7, as long as you can get the tools installed, cmake actually has some kind of platform toolset argument you can ultimately pass doesn't it? Or is it feeding ninja? Unsure if vcvars has an argument for that but it might.
@Bri The problem will even getting it to build for win 7. I don't have a toolchain capable of targetting it. I guess I could see if MS still offers the Windows XP compilers but Idk how to get MSVC's x64_x86 Cross Tools Command Prompt for VS to switch to those compilers. And then I need to figure out all the libraries onecore.lib replaces and test for onecore.lib or use the individual ones
@Bri Did the docs have a vaguely relevant emoji prepended before the title of each section? That's like 50% of how I score good docs now. As in, if those exist, knock off 50 percent no matter what else I find lol.
Well, Prism has gotten some great new functionality! I think the biggest is that Prism can now act in place for the NVDA controller client! It does not need the DLL present to communicate with NVDA since it performs the internal RPC binding automatically. The current downside to this is that there may only be one NVDA backend active at any given time, which is abnormal and inconsistent with all the other backends. If you currently try to do this, it will (safely) overwrite the existing one.
@Bri No, it doesn't. The controller client is (L)GPL license, and I have done everything I can to comply with it. Even if the (L)GPL code is combined into the larger prism.dll library, I don't see how I could possibly be violating it given that the project is entirely open source and so complying with the "allow people to modify/relink" thing is from what I know automatically satisfied. I'm not sure how else to comply other than what I've already done.
@x0 @Bri I honestly don't know. Right now I force dynamic linking unless yoru building for Emscripten. For the problems that might create, I keep finding conflicting interpretations about those problems all over the place. Which for something like the LGPL is never a good sign. Some people say it's a problem, others say that that's just a widely misunderstood clause. I really don't like the ambiguity
@x0 @Bri Hence why I force dynamic linking. If you patch CMakeLists then yes it technically can support it. I just would love for an expert in the field to tell me what would be an "official" interpretation because I really don't like the ambiguity and confusion/misunderstandings around that
@x0 @Bri And to make this even more confusing, you're not really using executable code from NVDA, you're just implementing their interface. And the copyright situation of interfaces is even more unclear, especially with all the different countries involved.
The easiest thing to do would probably be to do a git blame on the ACF file and get an explicit okay from everybody involved in its implementation. There can't be that many of these people.
@miki @x0 @Bri I just wish the damn license was cleare or 17 U.S.C. 102(b) clearly applied to interfaces. APIs and machine-generated code should never be copyrightable IMO. And And it's not as if I could just handwrite the implementation either, because MSRPC is completely undocumented from what I know as to what midl does.
@miki @Bri Would NVAccess actually give a shit? As the organization that owns the code, though I don't know what their contribution agreement is like, they would have the ultimate authority to say I don't care, you're not flagrantly violating it so go ahead yeah?
The only thing I wish FastSM could do, which I currently don't see is to filter boosts from home timeline. Some folks boost endless amounts of things I don't necessarily hold interest with. I don't think TWBlue can do this either, but TweeseCake can. FastSM takes less ram than both of the aforementioned two though.
Tomorrow's my big development talk y'all, I'm gonna stay real quiet and hunker down. Nervous as hell, I hate dev talks. So. No speech player updates, let's give language packs time to change a bit. I already see a few improvements coming, can't say what, but yeah, this will keep evolving the more folks try it and are honest. We now restored the UK English sound in this pack very close to the sound it had in the original IPA rules, which were much smaller and sparce in comparison, but I understand how we were contaminating phonemes with each other, which was the huge huge downside before I moved things into the frontend. Honestly, building that frontend was the best decision I made early. AI would have kept on piling in Python code, specific language variables, and stich me a 300 kilobyte Python file by the end. No no. We are not doing that. It's funny how real work changes you. I used to be a spaghetti-code type guy, all day I'd just throw my code in a single file. Today I shutter at the idea of zero abstraction. If it's not modularized well, it's not worth reading as code, period, unless it's clean small code. Yes I'm that much of a snob. Gosh. AI will happily spaghetti all day, unless you're Google Gemini, which can (sometimes) do better at helping you abstract it, but you are still the architect, if you don't know coding fundementals, it's hard to use AI to code something not considered "AI slop."
good luck in your dev talk mate. Seriously! I love the new add-on. I still can't find the slider you mentioned though to make the frame sliders appear again. I'm looking in the actual speech settings within NVDA.
estava aqui a olhar para a roupa da Dina da Coelha, a unica explicação é ela não ter autorização para sair de casa desde 1986, e o André ter a televisão sempre a passar episodios da tv rural seguidos daquele programma do Herman onde ele cantava quanto mais me bates mais eu gosto de ti, e episodios da eurovisão anteriores a 1974
“Europe is a regulatory morass that is built on bureaucracy, and the layering and layering of rules that constrain economic activity.”
Scott Bessant, US Treasury Secretary
To which Europeans say:
Flint, Michigan East Palestine, Ohio Uniontown, Alabama
These places are global bywords for the poisoning of people and nature when you have no regulatory oversight of business and you prioritise ‘economic activity’ at all costs over health and safety.
Everyone is going to Threads. My professional community - iOS developers, AI researchers, accessibility advocates - they're all there. I'm completely locked out, missing networking opportunities and professional conversations. This is disability discrimination. I cannot access Threads without assistive technology, and their systems automatically suspend me for using it. ADA compliance issue.
I've noticed that some client, maybe FastSM? Is doing this thing where it will add you to a thread even if you just boosted a post in it, not actually replied, and I'm not sure yet if I like it or find it annoying, maybe a bit of both?
Marcial 🇨🇷🇻🇪
in reply to mirkobrombin • • •mirkobrombin
in reply to Marcial 🇨🇷🇻🇪 • • •@moshimotsu I was just tired of bloated desktops, I wanted something modern that stays under 200MB. It’s built natively for Wayland using labwc under the hood to avoid reinventing the wheel, with no plans for Xorg support. I love the GNOME workflow but I’m fed up with the libadwaita-only direction and the feeling that any modification is an impurity. This is also a good playground, where I can do anything without being forced into someone else's design guidelines.
Oh and I love experimenting 🫠
TheEvilSkeleton 🇮🇳 🏳️⚧️
in reply to mirkobrombin • • •GNOME Shell doesn't use libadwaita...?
@moshimotsu
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in reply to TheEvilSkeleton 🇮🇳 🏳️⚧️ • • •TheEvilSkeleton 🇮🇳 🏳️⚧️
in reply to mirkobrombin • • •yes, what about it? That's still not a libadwaita-only direction given that the shell doesn't even use libadwaita
@moshimotsu
mirkobrombin
in reply to TheEvilSkeleton 🇮🇳 🏳️⚧️ • • •TheEvilSkeleton 🇮🇳 🏳️⚧️
in reply to mirkobrombin • • •I'm not sure what you mean by GNOME OS "just existing", especially considering I use GNOME OS on my tablet and desktop nowadays and see plenty of reasons why it should exist (laptop is on Silverblue, but I plan to switch to GNOME OS some day)
I guess I'll wait to hear your detailed take on GNOME OS once you write the blog post ;). I've had a lot of issues with Vanilla OS with how outdated GNOME is, but also the unclear direction with how containers are pushed and the tooling around them, which were some of the reasons why I went straight to GNOME OS from Silverblue
@moshimotsu
Marcial 🇨🇷🇻🇪
in reply to TheEvilSkeleton 🇮🇳 🏳️⚧️ • • •@TheEvilSkeleton Maybe @mirkobrombin and I are misattributing GNOME’s vision for its ecosystem to its vision for the shell.
Naturally the shell can’t be going LibAdwaita-only, as (looking from the outside in) I would figure many shell elements, like widgets/the dock/etc, are just using GTK4—not to mention non-LibAdwaita apps still run on it. The ecosystem is what seems to be going LibAdwaita-only, both in GNOME shell, and elsewhere. I figure?
TheEvilSkeleton 🇮🇳 🏳️⚧️
in reply to Marcial 🇨🇷🇻🇪 • • •@moshimotsu ah, that clarifies it, thanks :)
Just a small correction: Shell does not use GTK; it uses another toolkit called "Shell Toolkit" - see gnome.pages.gitlab.gnome.org/g…
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