RE: mastodon.social/@dansup/115758…
The people who dislike The Algorithm™ are either consumers who basically just want an RSS feed reader (nothing wrong with that) or people who brought audiences over from other platforms.
If you’re trying to create something and find an audience for it on the #Fediverse, you need some sort of recommendation algorithm. Otherwise, you’re just posting into the void.
dansup (@dansup@mastodon.social)
Friendly reminder, a reverse chronological feed like Mastodon and Pixelfed use are technically algorithms.Mastodon



tinderness
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •cake-duke
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •@dansup
People who say they dislike "the algorithm" mean they dislike the combination of A) algorithms engineered to optimize for "engagement" (read: addiction), B) societal pressure to belong to these platforms in various forms (e.g. gov announcements only thru said platforms).
Of course *SOME* algorithm is needed, people aren't opposing algorithms as a concept.
Iain Cheyne
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •Elena Brescacin
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •Even Rubik's cube notation is called algorithm
this fever of demonizing everything, confuses and doesn't take us so far
Marcus Adams
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •senesens
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •Daniel Gultsch
in reply to senesens • • •senesens
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •I do get the need but it's the method that I disagree with I guess. Sort of the wrong place to elaborate my point but the thing is, I'm confused by all of these efforts that are trying to re-create the "big platforms" point for point but just "open-source" and run by a" non-profit" and "federated servers" or something like that. I'm not at all convinced that will solve their ills.
A noble effort, true, and I could understand how someone might just like the big platforms more than what the fedi offers today BUT... I think there's something to said about the culture and insular nature that's found on Fedi today.
Maybe Fedi is not just "trauma reaction" to the big platforms? The pains of federation, slow discovery, the whole "old-forum" dynamic that's going on...I personally find these "bugs" to actually be "features". Because ultimately, I suspect that when you cater to "brands" or anyone who wants to "~milk~grow an audience", it'll be at the expense of "people" that will have to share the space with them.
I'm not saying it's impossible to create a great middle ground that will work and I'd love to see Fedi take over the world but yes, my brows are furrowed at any attempts to reduce this friction that keeps this place sane.
Daniel Gultsch
in reply to senesens • • •Ténno Seremél’
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •Daniel Gultsch
in reply to Ténno Seremél’ • • •@tennoseremel sure. And Mastodon works fine for people who don't want that. But what about the creators do want that?
Mastodon needs 'content' to attract new audiences. And content creators need ways for those audiences to discover them.
kundu 🌱🔻🐧
in reply to Daniel Gultsch • • •An algorithm that goes beyond that is kind of cheating as far as I am concerned, and it is an open door for future bad practices.
I think the fedi is ok as it is right now. 🤷♂️