@pluralistic I’m sorry, I’m all for holding giant corporations accountable and raising red flags when necessary, but this feels like unhelpful and inaccurate fear mongering.

9to5google.com/2025/06/25/gemi…

Gemini isn’t about to start “scanning your phone.” If you use a Google phone running Google’s OS with Google apps and the Google “AI” assistant, then starting today you can use that AI assistant without having to turn on “Apps Activity.” That’s all.

No, Gemini is not making a ‘concerning’ privacy change to read your texts – it’s actually getting better

An email Google sent out to Gemini users is being misunderstood, and greatly misconstrued. Here is what’s actually happening.

^{Abner Li (9to5Google)}

It's a real good thing you mention non-google OS's instead of just suggestion how to enable things (and keep on using it)

Non-corporate services are the only future which favor ALL of us.

@iode
@e_mydata

auf welchen #Google #Android
#Smartphones ist #Gemini den vorinstalliert ??

auf allen, außer den Custom ROMs ??

Ergänzung, habe Ich über flogen...

,, Wenn Sie nicht Googles Android, sondern Alternativen verwenden, ist das Risiko von fragwürdigen Updates wie diesem nahe null. ,,

well, thanks - I had wondered at the name of that variable, knowing it existed but not why it was named generically. So I learned from this! Thanks for sharing.

+1 for not adding this suggested feature, prefer explicit behaviour

good decision. Using environment variables as a secondary api is always an abuse. It introduced an ambiguity about which takes priority: env or command line flags?

It is terrible for discoverability: I can see the flags that are set, but I would have to inspect every environment variable and then find a list of which ones curl is affected by.

This is the exact reason global variables are frowned upon in any context!

Also generic env names imply multi-tool agreement that is doomed.

@JamminJerry It's all what you know and get used to - I'd likely struggle if I sat down with the Jaws cursor for the first time too :)

If you are interested in learning it, I would strongly recommend our Basic Training for NVDA which has a full section on object navigation and one on the review cursor: nvaccess.org/product-category/…

@JamminJerry Makes me wonder if the block is whether NVDA's object navigation IS complex, or.... do we just need to explain it better? Maybe we should start with explaining flattened object navigation? Not sure. I'd probably need to sit down with some practical examples and re-think it from scratch :)

Out of interest, have you read Basic Training for NVDA? Would be interested in your thoughts on how it is explained in there?

@JamminJerry it can be confusing. :)
NVDA's object navigation literally lets you move around each object on the screen. The problem is, that almost anything is an object. Like the focused object might literally be the OK button in a dialog box, so you can only really then get around the O and the K of the text, BEFORE COMING OUT OF THAT OBJECT to explore further.
How the objects all relate to each other, which are siblings, which parents, which children, is the thing to wrap your head around that really blows most people's minds.

Screen review can be a lifesaver here because in some cases, it replicates the JAWS cursor's ability to explore the screen regardless of the object hierarchy. So, like in that properties dialog box I mentioned earlier, it'd let you see everything on the screen: folder size, number of files, and so on.