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This is a lose thread of things I've achieved this year, and things that happened in my life throughout the year. Most of them which i'm proud of. Well, I don't have anything particular in mind, and I might add things here and there over the coming days, so here we go. 1/X
I pushed my Hitster online implementation to new heights. With now over 7K songs, thanks to the help of my partner and a friend, and we got online hits management now too. Squashed a few bugs here and there, and Bingo mode is on the roadmap for next year. Over all, pretty happy with how things are progressing on this end. 2/X
I became a PHD student back in June. I still don't feel too well in this seat to be honest, writing papers will definitely never become something I feel comfortable with. I also just wrote a 2-pager and submitted it for a conference, let's see if something comes of it or not. But anyway, writing something is better than nothing. The initial goal was to finish in 3 years, it doesn't feel like this is in the cards TBH, but I don't want to stress myself anyway. It'll take all the time it needs. 3/X
I turned 30 this year. I know that age isn't important and all, but it still feels like time is ticking in so many different ways. It doesn't feel bad to say and think that i'm 30 now, but it feels bad that time runs so fast these days. I guess that is part of becoming older. Not a pleasant feel, not gonna lie. 4/X
My partner got a job. Just a half-time one, but that means that she can finally stand on her own two feet after finishing her Bachelor degree back in 2023 and not finding a job right after. This helped us put some money into getting some new desks, and we want to keep our eyes open for a new and bigger flat next year. Who knows what'll happen, but i'm proud of her, she can finally buy herself some things she doesn't necessarily need but always wanted to get her hands on. 5/X
I put together a little showcase of how a Komplete Kontrol software browser could look like if it was accessible. Nothing fancy really, but I built it in Rust and used Tauri for it. Not gonna lie, writing a software that feels snappy and cool that uses the same technology stack as Discord, but uses just a tiny amount of resources compared to that beast kinda feels great. It was an interesting ride. 6/X
AI made me think quite a bit this year. It helped me to get into a foreign codebase, namely SayThe Spire, and understand the concepts behind it and finally make some changes. It also helped me carry out some maintenance tasks way easier by doing some tiny bits of research. I however also encountered major pitfalls in more complex projects. I also don't think I have to measure my value as a dev by amount of code output, I prefer to write solid, but less code over dumb code in hig amounts. 16/X
Music definitely was on the B-side of this year. YouTube channel stopped, I think I didn't touch any music at all this year. Well, maybe at the beginning. And now that my PC stopped to accept my Thunderbolt 4 switch too I basically lost access to my sample library hard drives too. I'll find a solution in time, but there are days when I want to go back to writing or arranging music. I initially wanted to get a new desktop PC next year too, but thanks storage prices, that is not gonna happen. 7/X
2025 also closes my second year in professional teaching people. I still feel kinda like an imposer compared to some teachers out there who know their way much better than me, but I feel like I was able to help some people get the hang of their workflow and enable them to do what they like most, hopefully without ripping them of their money. 8/X
Back in Januar this year I attended a meeting about how we could improve Germany's financial support for game developers and making accessibility part of that equation. It turned out to not achieve anything due to various foreseeable circumstances and changes within the gouvernment back in February, but it kinda felt good to be there and talk to people who are interested in my oppinion as a studied game developer. 9/X
Projects that certainly didn't get too much attention this year include Musical Sight, now Ear Dojo thanks to @Scott. I managed to rewrite my importer to incorporate the catalog from ReaperAccessible, bringing the total amount of products within the catalog to over 1.8K, but about 1K of them aren't properly tagged thanks to our catalogs not being exactly compatible. I also thought of some ear training exercises I want to add to Ear Dojo, let's see if that'll happen soon. 10/X
Also ReaHotkey fall flat for me this year. Luckily Matej took over with maintaining Kontakt and Komplete Kontrol entirely, and I didn't have the chance to test wether Dubler is still up and running. I was originally planning to add Melodyne support at some point, but that has to wait a bit longer as it seems. 11/X
I managed to read 62 books this year (and counting, Goodreads takes its time). Currently about 20,380 pages (dunno how long in narrated hours). Kinda doubled my reading throughput since 2024. I also enjoyed most of them really, kinda reminds me of the good old days about 20 years ago when I literally inhaled every book I could find back then. 12/X
My year started pretty badly, as I was noticing changes in how my body behaves and what it does in non-predictable circumstances which worries me quite a bit. I thus turned to my doctor who thinks that this isn't too much to worry about. I got some medication which seems to help a bit, but not make the things go away. With my family backstory I turned to a specialist, but only got an appointment in April, so this is basically still on hold for the time being. 13/X
In terms of games, my partner and I finished Trails through Daybreak and Trails through Daybreak 2 this year, two games we really, really enjoyed alot, and we're looking forward to Thrails beyond horizon which should arrive in January. Apart from that, we played Clair Obscur with a friend, and I think this game also made it to the spot of game of the year for me. Certainly unexpected, but awesome in so many ways, and more. 14/X
I played quite a bit Slay The Spire this year too, since I was able to pick up the SayTheSpire mod and add support for Downfall and fix some other things as well. The original dev also merged my changes, and its great to give something back to the community. I also played a bit Doki Doki Literature Club and Sequence Storm this year, as well as Final Fantasy VI and IX, which i'm also looking forward to playing more in the future. 15/X
Hi fediverse! I'm looking for earing supports I can use in DIY jewelry making, specifically in silver grade 925 or in titanium. Do you know an online shop where I could get them?
(a non-topical comment on your post... I refreshed my feed in phanpy.cosocial.ca and this post happened to be at the top and rendered with "Musc" which then morphed into "Music" almost right away. I'm supposing that there was a typo and you edited it and, since I've never seen anything around edits that was not a notification that someone I replied to or liked had edited there post, I found it interesting to have seen. Curious if this what actually happened or if I was imagining things)
I knew the edits were recorded/visible, I just found it interesting to see one played back "live". Up until now, I've only seen it update slowly like replies etc come in.
I'd be interesting in knowing how it happens (does the client stay connected to my server and the server offers up edited updates when such a connection is maintained?).
Does such a thing exist? You would need an active device for that to power the USBC AirPods and a DAC to convert analog to digital for the USB-C host, which then turns it back into analog. Not sure how that would work in practical terms.
If you ever find such a thing, I would be overjoyed to hear of it. I've been looking for 3.5 input, USB C output, for quite a while. I don't want a mixer, it has to be very portable. My search has resulted in nil, sadly.
@techsinger You'd probably have to build something custom with micro controllers and junk. Far as I know, such a thing doesn't exist as a commercial product.
Numbers and algorithms are so messed up for my brain. I have a YouTube channel with 97K subscribers and if I publish a video that does below 1K it feels like a failure, even tho I get dozens of positive comments, I'm proud of the video, and I had fun during the time I spent making it. Fuck numbers and algorithms, dude. I need to go back to how I was pre-internet, just making things for my own pleasure, and being happy if only a handful of people like it
yeah, forums and blogs used to only have comments and messages, then views and "reactions" started appearing because writing a comment I guess became too hard 🫠
Welp ... I was just informed through a Slack DM that I will no longer be working at the place I'm working at in two weeks' time. That is, evidently, how we handle that now. Not entirely unexpected as the writing on the wall was evident, but still not loving that approach for reasons I haven't quite worked out yet. If anyone needs help with their #accessibility from someone with both native #screenReader experience and a coding background, keep me in mind I guess :) Located in the eastern Netherlands, primarily interested in remote opportunities. #fediHired #layoffs
I should probably slightly amend that statement. If someone needs help with their #accessibility from a native #screenReader user with a coding background, keep me in mind. If you want your product to be more #accessible as a new year's resolution, also keep me in mind. i won't even judge if you drop the resolution two weeks after. If you've received complaints your product isn't accesssible but decided they weren't worth addressing, please realize you're deliberately choosing to exclude a bunch of people, decide you want to be a better human than that, and THEN keep me in mind :)
I thought that 'Your Dumped' only happened in the 2000's from teenagers over text message, not in an adult world from an actual corporation. Shows what little I know.
Yes, thank you for your hours, days, weeks and months of hard work, we appreciate all you've done for us. We're now moving onto an AI-first approach trained on your previous help, so have a little gift voucher on us for some no-name store. Bye bye.
to whoever stole my Zoom F4 recorder from #39c3 from the toilet rave / Maskenball: please, at least, give me the storage cards inside. they contain very valuable recordings. please. contact me at sdcards@nik.mx.
Is it the brain that thinks? It's at least a typical conception that the brain is where the thinking takes place. But in reality it's the body and its wider metabolism with it's surroundings from which thinking materializes.
This is one reason why many people get literally mentally crippled for a time when they lose someone important in their lives, apart from the other obvious reasons. Or when we are suddenly transported out of our comfort zone, for example as immigrants.
Okay, I am thinking about doing Jamuary this year, but maybe with a twist? Would any of you mutuals be interested in creating a prompt for me?
This could be anything, with the stipulation YOU create it. A text prompt of any kind; a visual score; a drawing, painting or photograph; a set of instructions such as tempo, key, timbres, etc; a brief sound recording for me to react to or even incorporate; a mood board or collage; etc/et al.
Just had a great 3 hours music session with @ZBennoui, going through my recently installed ample guitar, and coming so far with a project of mine on which he's been helping me, that now I can finally resume some work on it myself! Yes, that old forgotten instrumental I posted once upon a time in july. Either way as a little shoutout, this ongoing cooperation is amazing looking back and listening to the first tracks, comparing them to what we have now. Really appreciate your help man!
Hey #39c3, can you share pictures of fox ears? My colleagues at home won’t believe me that all of our 1,000 fox ears have found a new owner 😅 / Pls boost
Realizing I could use trackpad gestures to back out of the libadwaita navigation views then spending more time flinging the views back and forth than actually responding to people in Fractal.
that would probably be switching to Linux (with GNOME of course!) on my main PC after years of deliberation and mostly using vms and secondary computers
learning I could alt-space to make *any* window Always on Top and even mighrate with me between workspaces, which is truly one of the coolest windowing UI features ever. 🙌
I joined the Summer of GNOME OS challenge, and actually ended up creating/registering so many issues that I was in the top three when the challenge ended. I'm pretty sure the only reason is because others didn't register their issues, though, but it was still fun.
Also, getting a reply and being taken seriously when I butted in on a board discussion was really nice :)
The thing I like most about GNOME is that it's content to sit in the background chugging along, doing its thing without calling attention to itself. The big highlight for me is that my extensions now work seamlessly across updates, so there's one less case where I even have to think about my desktop environment.
This may sound ridiculous but I'm so happy the sound controls make a noise now when you change the volume. It makes it so easy to check if the sound is working correctly when switching outputs!
The migration to the strparse API introduced regressions in Digest authentication parsing where Optional Whitespace (OWS) after commas was not skipped, and escaped quotes in values were not correct...
Yes, and actually the only serious bug from their list.
Koch either didn't watch the talk, he is in such defense of his own ego that he can't see how serious the bugs were, or he's tacitly admitting that PGP is not a serious recommendation.
Can you distinguish between these three explanations?
Could it be all of them are true?
Impact
While this may allow remote code execution (RCE), it definitively causes memory corruption.
Good research.
I think this sarcastic quip is what reveals Werner Koch's opinion about the security researchers and their work.
The rest of his email is measured (and partly responding to other mailing list participants rather than the disclosure directly).
what I don't get is why you take this opportunity to attack #pgp in general, like taking the opportunity to push for some agenda, the site is called gpg.fail, GPG not PGP, most of the problems are related to gpg or some C code implementation bug, or using gpg and others in the command line and getting tricked by some ansi printing in the terminal, how that translates to "let's kill pgp"? ex. none of the listed problems affect #DeltaChat at all
@adbenitez it's a bit like saying "After seeing the arrogance and dismissiveness of the OpenSSL devs, we should come up with a way to replace TLS and x509"
@pemensik We replace email itself with a protocol that doesn't have a plaintext fallback mode, but has the same UX and can optionally yeet ciphertext (without meaningful metadata) over IMAP/SMTP if necessary.
there has been so many projects wanting to replace email or claiming "email is dead" at the end of the day there is only one survivor, and it is not them
Why do the failures of gpg imply that openpgp and rfc9580 are bad? Have you looked at modern ways of doing openpgp and email like chatmail.at does it? See also chaos.social/@delta/1157966260…
There are also many broken ways to implement signal protocols but they are not useful as examples for discrediting signal.
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@jack it also struck me often that these repeated "peace wishes" endings have so few to do with the typical content of Koch's mails, where he is very dismissive, also btw of ongoing #openpgp advances in the last several years.
One of my favorite "Star Sightings" was one my ex-wife had. She and her boyfriend at the time went to a Broadway show. Sitting in front of them was Patrick Stewart. My ex says to her boyfriend, that's Patrick Stewart. He replied, not it's not. At intermission Patrick Stewart turned around and said to her boyfriend in his baritone voice, "But he is."
ללהיטים הגדולים של כוורת להאזנה ברצף:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHxYIcFyBVwמילים: דני סנדרסוןלחן: יצחק קלפטרהיא כל כך יפה זה צובט בלב שלך, אך בכאב עצום....
I thought the CCC FreeBSD jail escape exploit would be cooler than it was, but instead it's blocked by basic security hygiene when running jails I guess. I've never seen jails deployed in prod without securelevel elevated. But maybe there are a lot of completely unaware people out there. Who knows.
@piero honestly the default behavior of jails in FreeBSD should be to have securelevel=3 by default and force you to explicitly define it lower if you really need it
That's an interesting idea. But then one would either need 2 sets of /etc/defaults/rc.conf, conditionals there (ugly) or hardcoding this into startup altogether.
OK, TIMTOWTDI. At this point there is no /etc/defaults/jail.conf as opposed to rc.conf. We have got the defaults hardcoded in usr.sbin/jail/config.c. Perhaps this is a sane idea to have /etc/defaults/jail.conf with project "suggested" jail defaults or just bump the KP_SECURELEVEL to 3.
@pertho @piero normal filesystem access works fine, it just restricts raw block device access including mounting from within the jail (if it even can see the block device)
Slop drives me crazy and it feels like 95+% of bug reports, but man, AI code analysis is getting really good. There are users out there reporting bugs that don't know ANYTHING about our stack, but are great AI drivers and producing some high quality issue reports.
This person (linked below) was experiencing Ghostty crashes and took it upon themselves to use AI to write a python script that can decode our crash files, match them up with our dsym files, and analyze the codebase for attempting to find the root cause, and extracted that into an Agent Skill.
They then came into Discord, warned us they don't know Zig at all, don't know macOS dev at all, don't know terminals at all, and that they used AI, but that they thought critically about the issues and believed they were real and asked if we'd accept them. I took a look at one, was impressed, and said send them all.
This fixed 4 real crashing cases that I was able to manually verify and write a fix for from someone who -- on paper -- had no fucking clue what they were talking about. And yet, they drove an AI with expert skill.
I want to call out that in addition to driving AI with expert skill, they navigated the terrain with expert skill as well. They didn't just toss slop up on our repo. They came to Discord as a human, reached out as a human, and talked to other humans about what they've done. They were careful and thoughtful about the process.
People like this give me hope for what is possible. But it really, really depends on high quality people like this. Most today -- to continue the analogy -- are unfortunately driving like a teenager who has only driven toy go-karts.
This is the first open source story I am hearing w/ a positive results from someone using LLMs to generate bug reports.
We have been struggling in LLVM w/ low quality LLM submissions. Curl completely banned them b/c it was so bad: mastodon.social/@LukaszOlejnik…
My biggest issue is how ridiculously verbose LLM submissions can be. Even ones that don't have obvious errors are soo long that if every submission was that long it would have significant impact on throughput.
Clearly someone using it thoughtfully can do excellent work but I am seeing very little evidence this is happening much.
AI vulnerability/bug founds and reports is a huge problem. Curl has banned the use of AI-generated submissions via HackerOne because none of it made any sense, and is a waste of resources and time. "We are effectively being DDoSed. If we could, we would charge them for this waste of our time" hackerone.com/reports/3125832
@sun securelevels are something most people aren't aware of, but if you can you should even run the host OS with a higher securelevel
The kernel runs with five different security levels. Any super-user process can raise the level, but no process can lower it. The security levels are:
-1 Permanently insecure mode - always run the system in insecure mode. This is the default initial value.
0 Insecure mode - immutable and append-only flags may be turned off. All devices may be read or written subject to their permissions.
1 Secure mode - the system immutable and system append-only flags may not be turned off; disks for mounted file systems, /dev/mem and /dev/kmem may not be opened for writing; /dev/io (if your platform has it) may not be opened at all; kernel modules (see kld(4)) may not be loaded or unloaded. The kernel debugger may not be entered using the debug.kdb.enter sysctl unless a MAC(9) policy grants access, for example using mac_ddb(4). A panic or trap cannot be forced using the debug.kdb.panic, debug.kdb.panic_str and other sysctl's.
2 Highly secure mode - same as secure mode, plus disks may not be opened for writing (except by mount(2)) whether mounted or not. This level precludes tampering with file systems by unmounting them, but also inhibits running newfs(8) while the system is multi- user.
In addition, kernel time changes are restricted to less than or equal to one second. Attempts to change the time by more than this will log the message “Time adjustment clamped to +1 second”.
3 Network secure mode - same as highly secure mode, plus IP packet filter rules (see ipfw(8), ipfirewall(4) and pfctl(8)) cannot be changed and dummynet(4) or pf(4) configuration cannot be adjusted.
My cat loves to play this "damsel in distress" game, where he runs outside in the rain and waits until he gets soaked, and then runs back in and bellows until I fluff him with a towel. Then he's in heaven. He loves it so much, that as soon as he's done, runs back outside and does it again. He LIVES for drama.
But the best part for me is saying in a German-type accent, "I am here to fluff (clap) YOU up!" But he doesn't get the reference. Because he's Gen Alpha.
Sorry dude, nothing personal, it’s just that I really dislike you, personally, like respectfully I think you’re a really bad person and I have zero respect for you.
I will most likely be picking up an electric guitar for the first time in ages soon. All my guitars are still in storage, possibly forever.
Thus, any recommendations on cool electric guitar processing plugins would be appreciated. Cheap or free would be great, since I don't really have a budget right now, but whatever.
I'll primarily be working in Reaper and Logic, both on Mac OS.
Tonex SE looks really cool but it's got some AI shit unfortunately. I'm not sure of anything in the music industry anymore that doesn't include AI shit. All the DAWs, all the VSTs...everything has it. I don't use it, but I am tired of fighting to not use something just because it includes it.
Logic itself has some stuff you can try. Neural DSP is expensive but you can have 14 day trials. The free NAM thing is open source and there are good amp captures around for it.
Other than NAM, nothing that's been mentioned so far is any good accessibility-wise. There's a JUCE-based fork of NAM that's probably the easiest to navigate, NAM Universal from WaveMind also has an accessible GUI and comes with a bunch of profiles/cabs. Seeing as you're a tweaker though, I don't know whether NAM would scratch any of your itches. Grab the free stuff from Nembrini Audio instead, decent emulations and more adjustable.
I really wish everyone would stop making fun of the people they don't like based on their physical appearance.
We really need to collectively grow up from this high-school bully mindset.
When you use appearance instead of ideas and behaviors to criticize someone, even someone deserving mockery, you are also shooting at everyone who might look like them, even the ones that might be incredibly good people.
There is more than enough content to talk against when it comes to the tyrants that currently surround us. Talk against their ideas, their words, and their actions. Be relentless for that. But their physical appearance is irrelevant to their moral deficiencies.
Our download stats visualization just received an update, with focus on usability and accessibility. You will certainly enjoy finally seeing the names of the apps!
@hisold "unknown" usually just means "not an F-Droid client" – so web browsers, crawlers, and the likes. While those could certainly simply download the APKs from Github & Co, it seems they also appreciate our extra screening 😉
by communist meetup standards we had a really big turnout at the communist meetup! but yeah, the fabulous flinta cruising part was like way way way bigger!
First we're way over capacity for the small conference room 6. Relocating to a bigger conference room. There are too many people on the escalator, escalator shuts off. Bigger conference room is closed. Relocate to yet another conference room. Communists who are at that conference room are nice to switch rooms with us.
So out of the blue I got a request for access to a 10 year old Google Docs file. This request also came from someone who actually might be interested in that file, so I contacted him. Turns out he was making **exercise schedules** and had asked Google Gemini for help, and Gemini decided it needed access to my document on a new government law (from 2015). So be careful out there!
It depends. On the web an alt text must be concise. Everything that is important, makes sense, is mentioned somewhere in the text, is to be conveyed. but conciseness is first. Here on social networks, I'd say, completeness is the first and even more important than conciseness. For instance, if you post a meme, describe it even if it's super lengthy. Like: "Three panels from left to right, on the first panel there is a man..." and on and on you go. It's important because *the image* is the unique thing you share, I have to laugh, to think, to be angry or emotional about *the image* itself, without any context basically. Ask further questions, I'm glad to answer everything.
Unfortunately, sometimes the important information is only in the image, not in the text. In such cases, it would need to be in the alt text. (Or the page needs an editor to get the important information back into the text.)
@0x7700e6 Because if you are reading an article, you generally don't want a huge alt text that would distract you from your reading. Even less you want it for images like logos, avatars, social network badges and so on. Also, both in and out of social networks avoid phrasing like "This is an image depicting..." (I know it's an image, my screen reader tells me about it); "This is the avatar of Jane Doe" ("Jane Doe" is enough).
@menelion If I post a well-known meme, is it OK to just say, for example "the Drake meme, with X then Y" or should I be doing "a four panel meme. On the first row left panel a man reacts negatively to the panel on the right showing X, then on the next row he reacts positively to the panel on the right showing Y". @0x7700e6 @micr0
@stib @0x7700e6 I'd do the second, sorry to bother you with that. Because we blindies are kinda... behind the graphic memes. You could probably possibly put a link to a description but rather don't because different clients and different browsers don't allow clicking links in alt, it would be plain text so... unfortunately probably you have to describe, at least for the first time.
Oh! Thank you for this: I (wrongly) thought that conciseness on social media would be preferred, except where maybe the post contains only an image, of the image is particularly detailed.
I sometimes also might add a commentary or a quip in my alt text - perhaps in response to the post's text, or to add context, or my own reaction. Is this poor practice, though, do you think?
@clickhere @stib @0x7700e6 Commentary in alt texts? Yes, I'd say it's not so good, because not everyone even pays attention to alt texts, and sometimes it's harder to read them if they are super long.
Yeah, I try to avoid anything very long or superfluous in alt texts, but have sometimes added a short sentence or phrase in addition to the description (depending on context).
@menelion @0x7700e6 There are dozens of sites where you can overlay your text on popular images to create memes without having to use an image editing program, I wonder if there are any that come with #AltText pre-generated. Eg. in the "Drake meme" format it would supply the image description and substitute your text for X and Y. If not there's my next billion dollar startup, ready to go.
@stib @0x7700e6 there are ways of generating alt texts, but they are all AI-based, and it seems that Mastodon is quite a… not friendly community for AI, unfortunately.
@VincentTunru Yes, from the standard's perspective. but from my personal perspective, I'd prefer the alt on the image. Because I might want to show her to someone, for example. Like "See, here's my CEO" 😊
@menelion If I may ask: I'll occasionally do alt texts like "Screenshot of XY user interface." Would you consider "screenshot" also useless information here and prefer "XY user interface"?
@avuko @stib @0x7700e6 It's helpful for the deaf, at least a rough description so they could probably send the video to a software for captions (I'm not sure but I imagine this is possible). For us blindies it's helpful when the video is super visual, like only music and kitties playing, for example, or a guy/girl is assembling, drawing, painting, knitting something etc., where there are no words.
@avuko @stib @0x7700e6 For example, my sighted wife likes to watch videos where a Japanese guy shows small apartments in Japan. He never speaks, only sometimes he adds some subtitles in very simple English, as my wife has just said. Maybe he is ashamed of his English pronunciation, maybe he's simply a shy person, I don't know, but he does amazing videos, but super visual. There ideally audio description or at least a decent alt text would work, especially if you share it for a reason (for example, you liked a particular apartment he was showing).
the flinta cruising party was super cute, and we where very happy to trade rooms so they would have more space, but we we're actually surprised how many people came to the communist meetup, we where expecting a much smaller group, lot's of communists and commie curious foks at #39c3, see you all next year.
very much reminds me of the first commie-curious session I did in 2017 (#34c3). We booked the smallest room we could find because we thought it would be a small group; it ended up more crowded than a sauna at Vabali during Aufguss
It's true: the more technical background and pre-conceptions you have, the more more likely you run into trouble with #deltachat 😂 Don't think so much! 😉
@wmd there are many computer people pretty happy with #deltachat ... who value precisely that they can use it with their families and friends easily, though.
With a lot of alternative software, the complaint is that it is only usable by specialists. We are pretty happy that in our case it is more the specialists who need to work harder and read the FAQ to understand that some lines of traditional thinking about eg email and pgp do not apply delta.chat/en/help
What is Delta Chat? Delta Chat is a reliable, decentralized and secure instant messaging app, available for mobile and desktop platforms. Instant creation of private chat profiles with secure and i...
I don't understand why combining delta with Thunderbird (a client mostly for cleartext mail), or importing some cryptographic key is required to value delta's architectures. Do you hack a different cryptographic key into your signal database, and otherwise don't feel confident to recommend it?
@hpk I think as mailclients go, thunderbird is one that gets combined most with pgp? Some people value their trust chains and have very well checked keys, or they want to generate their custom key. Because you can, you get "closer to the metal". Signal doesn't offer it, so it might be a loss or just not considered. That deltachat uses pgp invites people to think im their typical pgo ways/workflows. 🤷🏼♀️
What is Delta Chat? Delta Chat is a reliable, decentralized and secure instant messaging app, available for mobile and desktop platforms. Instant creation of private chat profiles with secure and i...
we are aware of the confusion (it was the whole point of the top level post after all) and doing our best to explain things, and the history of decisions. You seemed to suggest we should make sure to accommodate gpg and Thunderbird users because they are key multipliers, but frankly, we don't think the current state of these tools provides good examples or guidance for secure group messaging ala signal.
@hpk 1) I was part explaining as hpk said they didn't understand. 2) I don't think you need to facilitate thunderbird+gpg users, just that as deltachat is advertised a lot as being based on mail+pgp, it's good to be aware there is a key audience that can get confused by it.
If you tell me something is based on ssh, but I can't do the usual ssh features/flow I'll also be confused if not frustrated. 🤷🏼♀️
@wmd @hpk we are not advertising mail+pgp in the app, and also not in the web site or app stores of today. It's true that until April 2024 we emphasized mail+pgp more towards users and that's probably the background you remember and argue from. Today, we use email and openpgp for interoperability, and to benefit from a massive ecosystem of software and established understandings and code. But the goal is that users can stay pretty unaware about these underpinnings.
@wmd @hpk luckily, the vast majority of today's users don't have the historical baggage, and quite a few read our posts and docs of the last 20 months where we repetitively try to convey and clarify what we are doing and why :) it's still going to haunt us, obviously :)
Important talk by @Mer__edith and Udbhav Tiwari on the immediate and serious threat to privacy and data security posed by "Agentic AI" like MS Copilot and similar.
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