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@dino Hoping I'm not missing any irony here, considering how big the feature gap to Conversations on Android still is :P (great app!)

But assuming you mean it: thanks for the encouragement, I hope we can use the moment to get a bit more traction around that whole technology stack (#linuxmobile, #jabber, #xmpp)


But Daniel, you might ask, won't the criminals just use Conversations then? Yes, they already do. And thank you for realizing why chat control is stupid.

#Conversations_im #XMPP #Jabber #ChatControl


EU Chat Control won't apply to the federated Jabber/XMPP ecosystem.
#Conversations_im is used by various militaries, police forces and intelligence agencies in Europe. They will make sure it won't get any client side scanning.

#XMPP #Jabber #ChatControl


@astro
Never tried it, but I run my own instance of #slidge-matridge by @nicoco and it works pretty well.

Reminds me, that I should upgrade it and check if it still runs well after upgrade…

#Jabber #XMPP


Testing GNU Taler at #Datenspuren was fun. And by fun I mean mostly unspectacular. It just worked. I scanned a QR code. I got some Kolle Mate.

I think some sort of GNU Taler integration into #Conversations_im would be pretty cool.

If you would like to integrate Taler into Conversations there are currently funding opportunities available¹ from @nlnet and both the Taler developer as well as myself are happy to help with scoping.

¹: nlnet.nl/taler/

#XMPP #Jabber #GnuTaler #Taler #NGI


UnifiedPush (Datenspuren 2025)


Push-Benachrichtigungen auf Android-Handys ohne Google. Dezentralisiert und Open Source.

Mit Open Source Tools wie microG bekommt man zwar erfolgreich proprietäre Google Software von seinem Android-Handy verbannt; die eigentlichen Benachrichtigungen werden aber dennoch über Google Server verschickt (Firebase Cloud Messaging).

UnifiedPush ist ein Framework, mit dem Push-Benachrichtigungen dezentral bzw über selbst betriebene Server zugestellt werden können. Zahlreiche Open Source Android Apps unterstützen bereits UnifiedPush. Unter anderem: Tusky, Fedilab, DAVx⁵, Fennec, Element (mit Einschränkungen) und viele mehr.

Dieser Vortrag erklärt, wie Push-Benachrichtigungen im Allgemeinen funktionieren und warum sie trotz ihres eventuell schlechten Rufes eleganter sind, als jede App eine eigene Serververbindung aufbauen zu lassen.

Des Weiteren werden mögliche Privacy-Probleme erörtert die mit der Benutzung von Google Push Servern einhergehen.

Anschließend wird die Architektur von UnifiedPush erklärt.

Der Vortrag endet mit einer praktischen Anleitung wie man UnifiedPush auf einem Android-Handy benutzt.


@daniel
Die Bildübertragung scheint es auch erwischt zu haben.
Ich (wir) habe(n) neuerdings TLS-Fehler bei dem Versenden von Fotos. P2P geht noch.

"Read error: ssl=0xb400cdb3bb84f1c8: Failure in SSL library, usually a protocol error
error:1000042e:SSL routines:OPENSSL_internal:TLSV1_ALERT_PROTOCOL_VERSION (/usr/local/google/home/prb/src/boringssl/ssl/tls_record.cc:594 0xb400cde9076a6708:0x00000001)"

Ob das jetzt an der #conversationsapp, ihrem update oder dem #XMPP-server von #mailbox_org liegt, kann ich nicht beurteilen. Da P2P übertragungen noch klappen, Tipps ich auf Server(-Versionskompatibilitäts-)Probleme.

#jabber #mailboxorg



@mailbox_org
Hallo Mailbox.org-Team,
habt ihr an eurem xmpp-server herum geschraubt? In den Gruppenchats auf eurem Server kann ich seit kurzem keine Änderung des letzten Posts mehr vornehmen. Bei Gruppenchats auf anderen Servern geht es noch, daher vermutlich eine Server-Frage? (Nutze Conversations aus dem F-Droid)

Sehr dringlich wäre auch mal ein Update eures Servers! Nach meinen Informationen läuft euer Server seit 2018 ohne Updates auf aktuelle Versionen????

#mailbox_org #xmpp #conversationsApp #jabber




A Rising Tide Lifts All Boats :xmpp:

We have published a new blog post recently: providers.xmpp.net/blog/2025-0…

Here we cover our #survey results to gather feedback from #XMPP #server #operators. We also provided more background on the project's purpose.

Thanks to all survey participants!

:xmpp: :xmpp: :xmpp: :xmpp:

#chat #messaging #jabber #standards #interoperability #decentralization



The JoinJabber Mediation Circle has gotten reports about unsafe communities in some of the apps listed on our website, we are going to contact application developers and server operators over the next few weeks to make sure we are on the same page around safety in our communities.

We take all reports we get seriously and they stay completely confidential.
We will release more information after the feedback has been gathered and we have had some internal deliberation over this.

#xmpp #jabber


The #Conversations_im release that was rejected yesterday is now live on the Google Play beta channel.

A late addition to the 2.19.0-beta release is message moderation for public channels, giving moderators the ability to delete spam messages.

#XMPP #Jabber




Is #WhatsApp introducing #ads the last straw for you?

noyb.eu/en/whatsapp-getting-ad…

Consider using #Prav instead, which is:

🗳️ community-driven, so you can push for features you like, and, more importantly, vote against changes you dislike!
🆓 freedom-respecting, so you can fork the code to make things work the way you want
:xmpp: standards-based, using the #XMPP protocol
🌐 part of the federated #Jabber network, so you can switch apps and instances without having to drag everyone else along with you!




That's a very illuminative post!

In other words, please CMIIW:

#XMPP is an open protocol standard with various independent implementations in many programming languages for most operating systems. Almost not two #Jabber clients use the same library.

Delta Chat, OTOH, is a single vendor software framework based on various open standards. My guess: Independent implementations are possible, but maybe not encouraged, because they would sooner or later diverge too much from the original?





After the Code of Conduct and the Mediation process, the Core Governance document is now ready for wider feedback.

This document describes what JoinJabber does and what we aim to achieve. It also describes what our values are and a way to make proposals to the entire community.

Feel free to share and read/respond to the document.
codeberg.org/joinjabber/collec…

#xmpp #permacomputing #consent #jabber


A recent security audit of #Conversations_im¹ found that wildcard certificate handling didn’t fully comply with the spec.

Conversations was accepting *.a.example for c.b.a.example, even though wildcards are only meant to match a single label.

This issue has been fixed in version 2.18.0, now live on Google Play.

¹: conversations.im/2025_audit_co…

#XMPP #Jabber