Apparently Lufthansa has a new "cabin concept" called Allegris. (source seatmaps . com)
Let's break down the basic economy class feature: seating space.
The regular one on B789 (787-9):
32" pitch (that's the distance between two seat) and 3" recline (mean 3" if personal space invasion).
Now the new Allegris on B789 (787-9):
31" pitch (one inch less,, 2.54cm) and 5" recline (2 more inches of personal space invasion). In short 3 more inches (7.6cm) of incomfort for tall people like me.
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Hubert Figuière
in reply to Hubert Figuière • • •And people wonder why I hate flying (in Economy). But simply put I'm tall and when I seat my knee already touch the front seat. And it gets worse over. Now when the person in front recline the seat, it hurts. I gave seen: 1. people doing violently (slaming the seat back) 2. people insisting they must when there is no room, and waiting I get to the washroom to do it so I can't seat back. Got scolded my Swiss crew for that.
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Hubert Figuière
in reply to Hubert Figuière • • •And then airline charge a premium for "front" seat (bulkhead or emergency exit). They are less convenient like less storage, no bag on the floor, or screen that must be stowed away. But I guess they don't discount that inconvenience, but they do charge more money for the leg room. And even if the seats are empty, you can GFY, at least on Air Canada.
(IANAL, but it becomes discriminatory)
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Hubert Figuière
in reply to Hubert Figuière • • •In Premium Economy the pitch increases from 38" to 39".
And the Business ones I'm not even sure how relevant it is given how they are built.
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James Just James
in reply to Hubert Figuière • • •People in front should be allowed to recline their seats all the way. If you don't fit, you should take it up with the airline and the government to make laws guaranteeing minimums! (Please do!)
Marc Garneau (who just died) helped gut air passenger rights similar to this, and we've got a long way ahead to get some of them back and then even more!
Hubert Figuière
in reply to James Just James • • •James Just James
in reply to Hubert Figuière • • •Nope, but I don't fall into the trap of pitting passenger against passenger. The real problem is the airline and the lack of government regulation.
Let the poor economy class friend get as much measly reclining room as they can.
Hubert Figuière
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